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Old 06-25-2008, 06:20 AM
 
Location: Cheswolde
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From today's Examiner:
Antero Pietila: Streetcars past and present - Examiner.com (http://www.examiner.com/a-1457597~Antero_Pietila__Streetcars_past_and_presen t.html - broken link)
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Old 06-25-2008, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Portland, Maine
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Very interesting article. I sure wish we had some yet. There is a movement to at least have one line traveling Charles. Hope it happens. \
Sidenote: barante, if you are interested in streetcars and their disappearance, there is a wealth of information and opinion at this website forum on Detroit's former streetcars. Discuss Detroit: DSR Streetcar memories - 1
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Old 06-25-2008, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Portland, Maine
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Here is the link for the proposed Charles Street Trolley:

Charles Street Corridor Trolley (http://www.charlesstreet.org/trolley/ - broken link)
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Old 06-25-2008, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Portland, Maine
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Discuss Detroit: DSR Streetcar memories - 2 (http://atdetroit.net/cgi-bin/foroum/discus.cgi?pg=next&topic=6790&page=63967 - broken link)


If you scroll down this page, there is much information about Baltimore's streetcars contributed by "economy printing"
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Old 06-25-2008, 08:50 AM
 
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Oh, puh-leeze!

The light rail killed the last businesses on Howard Street(it's a good system, mind, but following on the heels of the first shut down for the fancy street-lights, it was just too much-a sign on a closed hotel read, "Enough is Enough!")

It'll take too long, won't work very well, and put the kibosh to any hope of making a profit there-this is Baltimore, y'know?

Anyone remember the Subway extension?

How long overdue? How much over budget?
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Old 06-25-2008, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Burbs of Detroit
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From today's Examiner:
Antero Pietila: Streetcars past and present - Examiner.com (http://www.examiner.com/a-1457597%7EAntero_Pietila__Streetcars_past_and_pres ent.html - broken link)
Yep, that pretty much explains why Detroit and the Metro area do not have a public transit system. The only thing we have here other than the unsafe bus system is a merry-go-round also known as the People Mover that just does a loop through the innermost area of downtown Detroit and the Riverfront.

The Motor City killed public transportation
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Old 06-25-2008, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Cheswolde
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jonjj -- While I'm not that deep into streetcars, that Detroit stuff is fascinating. Great photos, too.
Item: What's the state of today's transit bus technology? A friend of mine who used to drive a bus to earn college money said a couple of years ago that as far as he was concerned, the technology had hardly changed at all in three decades.
In fact, some of the innovation has come from such manufacturers as Ikarus, a Hungarian bus manufacturer. Also, I hear that Brazil is on the cutting edge of clean bus technology utilizing alternative energy sources.
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Old 06-25-2008, 10:34 AM
 
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Not much to change-four wheels, a motor, some seats?

Howcum Seattle, a city with heinous traffic(lots of choke points, due to lots of waterways)has buses you can set your watch by, and Baltimore's buses may or may not show up at the stops?

And don't blame the drivers, they're doing the best they can!

The lighted board that shows where you are, then the next stop is a good idea.

The MTA has it's own police department, which is also trying to do what it can, but seems unable to keep people from generally making a mess and raising Hell all through the system.

And do notice that nowhere in the entire rail complex is there a rest room-nowhere!

Too much like right?
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Old 06-25-2008, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Portland, Maine
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jonjj -- While I'm not that deep into streetcars, that Detroit stuff is fascinating. Great photos, too.
Item: What's the state of today's transit bus technology? A friend of mine who used to drive a bus to earn college money said a couple of years ago that as far as he was concerned, the technology had hardly changed at all in three decades.
In fact, some of the innovation has come from such manufacturers as Ikarus, a Hungarian bus manufacturer. Also, I hear that Brazil is on the cutting edge of clean bus technology utilizing alternative energy sources.
I have no clue about the technology. With gas and costs for material and lots of engineers out of work, I would think Detroit would be a great place for this type of technology to occur. It may help the economy there from the sinking automobile industry.
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Old 06-25-2008, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Portland, Maine
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Not much to change-four wheels, a motor, some seats?

Howcum Seattle, a city with heinous traffic(lots of choke points, due to lots of waterways)has buses you can set your watch by, and Baltimore's buses may or may not show up at the stops?

And don't blame the drivers, they're doing the best they can!

The lighted board that shows where you are, then the next stop is a good idea.

The MTA has it's own police department, which is also trying to do what it can, but seems unable to keep people from generally making a mess and raising Hell all through the system.

And do notice that nowhere in the entire rail complex is there a rest room-nowhere!

Too much like right?
Oh glorious Seattle!!! They never have poor planning. Try reading up on those bus tunnels downtown. Talk about your cost-overrun and shady deals. A book could be written about it.
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