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Old 05-24-2011, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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everyone is willing to make a stand - except when they aren't............

also, I don't believe a word about a thing you posted .... special ID cards, you mean something that is more valid than a government issued visa when trying to "smooth out any problems" ... yeah, that's believable

but keep trying to feed hysteria - the dis-information machine is thankfully starting to die on this one
Major League Baseball teams prepare Latino rookies for Arizona law | SILive.com


[Cleveland Indians] brought in a local police officer to explain the situation and issued each player an ID card so they don't have to rely on carrying around their visas and paperwork with them."

The Milwaukee Brewers believe they are ready for the law, having issued identification cards to their players for the past three years. Each card has the player's photo and information on how to contact Brewers officials if authorities question why the player is in Arizona.


Do you have any more wild guesses and unfounded assumptions for us?
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Old 05-24-2011, 05:12 PM
 
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Nice picking and choosing - also, this is more pertaining to rookie league players who live here for an extended period of time

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The Brewers started the program because they were staying in a crime-plagued part of south Phoenix. The club has since moved to a hotel near the Glendale entertainment district but still issues the cards.
yeah - if you are living in maryvale you may run into police a little more frequently - have no idea why the brewers would put up their players there (dig the stadium though...)

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"Major League Baseball has a great relationship with local authorities," Kansas City Royals general manager Dayton Moore said. "... We have local police come in and talk about areas players should avoid. There's security at the hotel. You've got to go out of your way to mess up. That's not to say we don't have situations occur. But when it does happen, it's usually centered around alcohol or females."
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"We keep players pretty close to the complex, going to the hotel and mall," said Bobby Evans, the Giants' vice president of baseball operations. "Guys don't have cars or a lot of means of getting out. It's a little different now (with the new law). We haven't had any problems and we don't anticipate any. The players have been there a while now, since spring training, so since the law came out and they know about it. Our staff keeps the players apprised."
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"We haven't altered the way we develop our players in any way," Reagins said. "We're still sending the same types of players to the Arizona Rookie League and into the state of Arizona, so that hasn't changed. We have just made our players aware that they should have their identification with them at all times. But other than that, we don't see any difference in how we're going to operate."
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"It's a preventative measure," assistant general manager Gord Ash said. "We haven't had any problems so far."
You basically have guys who are 18-21 (at least that is what is said on their birth certificates..) living in a foreign country, who don't speak the language, don't know how to get around, etc ..... the clubs are basically acting as their representation if they get into any legal trouble .... you can't expect these guys to know all of their rights, etc so the clubs look out for them - again they look out for them in all aspects

of course that is an ancient article written last summer at the height of hysteria

and finally, most of the law is not in effect as it's going through the courts - i doubt the local LEO could provide much information at that time because it wasn't even that well defined to them or in effect

finally - if the law did go into effect at a state level or if they came across the federal agents that are currently here the clubs are doing them a big diservice telling them to not have their visa papers - could lead to a fairly long detention while it gets sorted out

some kind of assistance card is a great idea, but bring your information as well as the club card doesn't mean squat to ICE or any other gov't agency as it is not proof of anything
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Old 05-25-2011, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Hometown of Jason Witten
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Major League Baseball teams prepare Latino rookies for Arizona law | SILive.com


[Cleveland Indians] brought in a local police officer to explain the situation and issued each player an ID card so they don't have to rely on carrying around their visas and paperwork with them."

The Milwaukee Brewers believe they are ready for the law, having issued identification cards to their players for the past three years. Each card has the player's photo and information on how to contact Brewers officials if authorities question why the player is in Arizona.


Do you have any more wild guesses and unfounded assumptions for us?
MLB clubs have always complied with federal laws regarding documentation for their players who are not U.S. citizens. Did the Brewers start issuing ID cards three years ago because they knew SB 1070 would be introduced in January, 2010? Sounds like hype to me.
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Old 05-25-2011, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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MLB clubs have always complied with federal laws regarding documentation for their players who are not U.S. citizens.
Who said they didn't?
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Old 05-25-2011, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Blankity-blank!
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If the ASG could be made to count for something.
Years ago I lived in Chicago and looked forward to the annual Cubs/Sox game. I was passionate for the Cubs so I could brag to my Sox friends. For line-ups both teams packed in the usual bench warmers, which I couldn't understand at the time for such an important game. Of course, it was all a meaningless show for the fans.
Since inter-league play the Cubs/Sox series are interesting because both play to win. It's worth watching.
I haven't watched an ASG in years and don't care.
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Old 06-25-2011, 01:24 AM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix, AZ USA
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Albert Pujols is by no means the first person to threaten not to show up for the All-Star Game. Some day, he may realize that the game is actually bigger than the individual. His absence will open up a slot for someone else to participate, who might not otherwise have the opportunity. That's most of what he'll accomplish.

And now that he's out 4-6 weeks due to injury, his "boycott" is pretty much a moot point.
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