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Old 06-29-2011, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Parts Unknown, Northern California
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I think this team can actually get better.
85
89
92
93
97

Those are the Philadelphia win totals each season since '06. In '11 they are on a pace for 101 wins.

Which makes me wonder what the record is for the most consecutive years of a team improving its winning percentage. I'm thinking that there probably aren't a lot of teams which have won more than the year before for five consecutive seasons.
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Old 06-29-2011, 08:30 PM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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You're just upset because you wanted the Red Sox to sweep the Phillies and instead they've been held to 1 run over 2 games.
not upset if they proved that the series wasn't a WS preview.
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Old 06-29-2011, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Silver Spring, MD/Washington DC
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not upset if they proved that the series wasn't a WS preview.
You know, regular season results don't mean much in the playoffs. Just two years ago the Phils took 2 of 3 from the Yanks in the Bronx in the regular season but then lost 4 out of 6 to them in October (and November). An even better example, the one I always trot out as Exhibit A, is the 1983 NLCS; the Phillies beat the Dodgers 3-1 in that series (LCS was still best of 5 at that time) after losing 11 of 12 games to Los Angeles in the regular season. If the Phillies and Red Sox play again in October, the result could be totally different...or exactly the same for that matter. Three games (or as I type this, 2 games) out of 162 games is a really, really small sample size.
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Old 06-29-2011, 08:37 PM
 
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Honestly?

Runs scored this season
#1 Yankees 411
#2 Red Sox 409
#3 Reds 391

On Base Percentage:
#1 Red Sox .350
#2 Yankees .344
#3 Cardinals .340

Slugging Percentage:
#1 Yankees .449
#2 Red Sox .444
#3 Rangers .431

wRC+ (relative to league average and adjusted for stadium)
#1 Yankees 119
#2 Red Sox 117
#3 Cardinals 109

Would have thought that the Red Sox' 0-6 and 2-10 starts would have helped people to realize that good teams can lose games over a short stretch.

First 6 games of the season: 0 - 6
Next 64 games of the season: 44 -22
Last 6 games of the season: 1 - 5

One of these days I'll learn to stop underestimating the power of willful ignorance.
The last two games...1 run, 7 hits.
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Old 06-29-2011, 08:45 PM
 
Location: The City
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85
89
92
93
97

Those are the Philadelphia win totals each season since '06. In '11 they are on a pace for 101 wins.

Which makes me wonder what the record is for the most consecutive years of a team improving its winning percentage. I'm thinking that there probably aren't a lot of teams which have won more than the year before for five consecutive seasons.

Interesting, never thought of it that way - not to mention the starting point was 89 wins which in and of itself is pretty good. The Phils are on the run of my life likely - I am quite enjoying it. Honestly on your trend and its projection, say they hit 100; as a guessing man this consecutive increase would likely end (actually to best 97 is still a long way off), I just hope (probably a pipe dream) the reverse follows similar win totals.

You always have cool stats, many thanks!
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Old 06-29-2011, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Silver Spring, MD/Washington DC
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Interesting, never thought of it that way - not to mention the starting point was 89 wins which in and of itself is pretty good. The Phils are on the run of my life likely - I am quite enjoying it. Honestly on your trend and its projection, say they hit 100; as a guessing man this consecutive increase would likely end (actually to best 97 is still a long way off), I just hope (probably a pipe dream) the reverse follows similar win totals.

You always have cool stats, many thanks!
Here are the numbers I like:

86
80
86
86
88
85
89
92
93
97

The above are the Phillies' regular win totals from 2001 to 2010. (For what it's worth, had the Phillies not had one game in 2002 cancelled, they may have even finished .500 that year; they went 80-81. That may not seem all that impressive, but 80-81 is a better record than what the Phillies had in all but one season between 1987 and 2000.) Though many people jumped on the Phillies' bandwagon in 2008 (or at least 2007), their run as a playoff contender really started back in 2001 when they overachieved and finished 2 games behind the Braves for the NL East title. Now obviously it was frustrating to see Phillies fall just a bit short of the playoffs in 2001 and every year from 2003 to 2006, but you know what? I'll gladly take a team that is a winning team and playoff contender almost every year, even if they fall short, over the type of team the Phillies were from 1987-1992/1994-2000 (and for that matter for most of their history prior to the mid-1970s). Obviously the Phillies have stepped it up since 2007 (or more accurately 2008), but the Phils didn't have to take that big of a step to get to where they got to starting in 2008; they were already most of the way there in the early to mid-2000s. (Interestingly, if MLB allowed the top 4 teams in each league to make the playoffs regardless of division, the Phillies would have also made the playoffs in 2005 and 2006.) Almost every team in baseball would gladly trade their 2001-2010 (actually through mid-2011) records for the Phillies' records during the same period, and there aren't many extended periods in Phillies history where the franchise could legitimately make that claim.

Every Phillies fan out there should appreciate what the team has done since 2001 because this is arguably the best extended stretch of success in the team's mostly inglorious history, with the possible exception of the 1975-1983 period. Hopefully the Phillies will be able to turn over their roster as needed and continue their stretch of success for a few more years.
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Old 06-29-2011, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Long Island,New York
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It's a long season and many of the top teams(including my Yankees) go through streaks. Don't count them out just yet.
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Old 06-29-2011, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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The last two games...1 run, 7 hits.
What do you think is more representative? 2 games or 78?
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Old 06-29-2011, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Tucson, AZ
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The last two games...1 run, 7 hits.
Obviously predictive of the remainder of the season- just like their first 10 games were, right?

They'll be fine.
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Old 06-29-2011, 11:41 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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The 1927 Yankees, considered by many to be the greatest team of all time, lost 4 games in a row between Aug 19 and Aug 22 by a combined score of 33-18. Three of those games were against the Cleveland Indians who finished the season 66-87

Ridiculous to think that 2 games in a 162 game season means much of anything
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