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Old 08-04-2011, 07:02 AM
 
Location: Cook County
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The man's first name was Salvador, which satisfied the criteria. I could have also used Germany Schaeffer, but then it would have been so easy, even you would have gotten it. Chili Davis' first name was Charles. It was a trick question, OK?
I laughed IRL at this.
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Old 08-04-2011, 07:28 AM
 
Location: Parts Unknown, Northern California
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The man's first name was Salvador, which satisfied the criteria. I could have also used Germany Schaeffer, but then it would have been so easy, even you would have gotten it. Chili Davis' first name was Charles. It was a trick question, OK?
That would make you a trick questioner.
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Old 08-04-2011, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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That would make you a trick questioner.
So now you are forewarned.
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Old 08-04-2011, 01:51 PM
 
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So now you are forewarned.
What is a forewarning? Is that the warning you do before you warn someone about something?
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Old 08-04-2011, 03:49 PM
 
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If you encounter a standard English word you do not understand or know the meaning of, look it up in a dictionary.
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Old 08-04-2011, 05:04 PM
 
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If you encounter a standard English word you do not understand or know the meaning of, look it up in a dictionary.
I'm challenging its utility, not its legitimacy.

The dictionary defines "warn" as:

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warn   /wɔrn/ Show Spelled[wawrn]
verb (used with object)
1. to give notice, advice, or intimation to (a person, group, etc.) of danger, impending evil, possible harm, or anything else unfavorable:
See? "danger"..."impending"..."possible"...all references to future events.


In that a warning against something which has already taken place isn't a warning any longer, it is just criticism, it follows that to be a warning, it must take place in advance of the event.

I had already looked forewarn up in the dictionary, that inspired my post.

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fore·warn   /fɔrˈwɔrn, foʊr-/ Show Spelled[fawr-wawrn, fohr-] Show IPA
verb (used with object)
to warn in advance.
Since to be a warning, it must take place in advance, the word "warning" serves the purpose perfectly. Tacking on "fore" is a redundant act and suggests, as I noted, that a forewarning is a warning about a coming warning. "Watch out. In five minutes I'm going to warn you about something."


We're covered. We don't need "fore." It is excess baggage.

You are now foreadvised of this.
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Old 08-05-2011, 08:12 AM
 
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I'm challenging its utility, not its legitimacy.

The dictionary defines "warn" as:



See? "danger"..."impending"..."possible"...all references to future events.


In that a warning against something which has already taken place isn't a warning any longer, it is just criticism, it follows that to be a warning, it must take place in advance of the event.

I had already looked forewarn up in the dictionary, that inspired my post.



Since to be a warning, it must take place in advance, the word "warning" serves the purpose perfectly. Tacking on "fore" is a redundant act and suggests, as I noted, that a forewarning is a warning about a coming warning. "Watch out. In five minutes I'm going to warn you about something."


We're covered. We don't need "fore." It is excess baggage.

You are now foreadvised of this.
But I didn't coin the word. If I had, you would have a point, but it is a legitimate and valid word in the English language, and I am entitled to use it with its accepted meaning, without jeopardy of ridicule for doing so. Even though the word by itself appears to have, as a linguistic quirk, advanced through the lexicon despite its seeming redundancy.

Note the context in which I used the word. I reminded you that your discovery of my being a trick questioner forewarned you to be cognizant of that characterization in advance of any future misunderstanding about the potential for trickery in my questions. Perfectly legitimate usage. As of the moment of your reading my confession as an interrogative mountebank, you became forewarned amply in advance of the next occurrence of chicanery by which you might have otherwise been an unwitting and mortified victim of my behavior. Any future protests about my trick questioning will be subject to the general advisory that "you have been forewarned", the meaning of which is fully contingent on dictionary definitions of all terms employed, and which retains its validity without an expiration date, into an indefinite future, tacitly renewable with each occurrence.

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Old 08-05-2011, 08:31 AM
 
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I am entitled to use it with its accepted meaning, without jeopardy of ridicule for doing so.
You have a "Get Out of Ridicule Free" card?

Could you trace the legal history of this "entitlement?" What were some of the key court decisions which established this right? What are the prescribed punishments for violating the no ridicule aspect of the laws?
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