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Old 07-24-2012, 07:59 AM
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Location: The Sand Hills of NC
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God, this bullpen is awful.

Jason Bay is a big waste of space. Send his ass packing somewhere.
Of course he is, you don't bring American league hitters into the National league and expect the same kind of output.
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Old 07-24-2012, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Of course he is, you don't bring American league hitters into the National league and expect the same kind of output.
And where did Bay first become a star? Pittsburgh...which, to the best of my knowledge, isn't currently fielding an American League team.

Jason Bay said from the time he first took the Mets' money and signed a contract that he didn't really want to play in New York. And judging from his performance since he came here, he wasn't kidding.
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Old 07-24-2012, 04:11 PM
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And where did Bay first become a star? Pittsburgh...which, to the best of my knowledge, isn't currently fielding an American League team.

Jason Bay said from the time he first took the Mets' money and signed a contract that he didn't really want to play in New York. And judging from his performance since he came here, he wasn't kidding.
Sorry I was under the impression that he came to the Mets from the American league. I guess I was wrong.
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Old 07-24-2012, 10:01 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Jason Bay

NL: 4065 plate appearances. .363 OBP, .482 SLG, 23% better than the average hitter
AL: 849 plate appearances. .380 OBP, .534 SLG, 33% better than the average hitter

Bay has been a pretty good hitter in both leagues.

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Of course he is, you don't bring American league hitters into the National league and expect the same kind of output.
but a 2008 study found that
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a hitter will perform better in the NL than the AL ... a batter gains a full point-and-a-quarter in contact rate, .005 points in BABIP, and 1.5 points in HR/FB simply by playing in the National League.
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Old 07-25-2012, 07:21 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn,NY
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And where did Bay first become a star? Pittsburgh...which, to the best of my knowledge, isn't currently fielding an American League team.

Jason Bay said from the time he first took the Mets' money and signed a contract that he didn't really want to play in New York. And judging from his performance since he came here, he wasn't kidding.
I have no clue what has happened to him. I wish the Mets would have made an offer to Holiday instead.
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Old 07-25-2012, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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There's a kid in the minors by the name of Matt Den Dekker. Not only is he hitting for average, but with power, too. I'm hoping that he's going to make us forget all about Jason Bay.
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Old 07-25-2012, 10:35 AM
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I don't waste a lot of time looking up stats but just out of curiosity I looked up Bay's stats and his NL output was declining and then as soon as he went to Boston his output suddenly increased. So of course the Mets had to have him just like they had to have Beltran because of his bunch of playoff homers.
Hopefully the new GM will make better decisions when trading or bidding on players.

Some people like 10 men Baseball and some of us like the traditional 9 men to a team.
I prefer those who are good 9 men players.

Of course great players will excel in either league.
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Old 07-30-2012, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn,NY
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I still see this team ending up over .500. Not sure about making the playoffs. I will be happy if they end up over .500.
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Old 07-30-2012, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn,NY
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In 2005, Bay hit .306 with 32 homeruns and 101 rbi's. In 2006, he hit .286 with 35 homeruns and 109 rbi's. In 2009, he hit .267 with 39 homeruns and 119 rbi's. WTF HAPPENED.
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Old 07-31-2012, 11:37 AM
 
Location: NJ
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I still see this team ending up over .500. Not sure about making the playoffs. I will be happy if they end up over .500.
I agree. The worst is over, and the kids have, by and large, made sme healthy contributions.
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