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View Poll Results: What city can support it?
Montreal 16 20.25%
Portland 22 27.85%
San Antonio 12 15.19%
Charlotte 28 35.44%
Albuquerque 1 1.27%
Salt Lake City 3 3.80%
Las Vegas 10 12.66%
(Other) Write in comments 8 10.13%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 79. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-18-2014, 10:39 AM
 
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I have lived in two cities in my life and both of them are under discussion... Milwaukee and Las Vegas.
Milwaukee, although a smaller market has very good attendance. They have themselves set up with a nice stadium, a dedicated owner and a pretty loyal fanbase considering all of their heartbreaks. Bus Selig kept baseball in Milwaukee and owner Mark Antannasio has carried the torch quite well. The Milwaukee Bucks do not get much love... The city is definitely a Packer/Brewer town.

In Las Vegas, I can assure you that an MLB team will not be coming here. A team will be coming soon, but it will either be MLS, NHL or NBA. There are many reasons for this, but the two biggest ones are this:
1. Two sports arenas are being built right now in Las Vegas which will be able to host an NBA or NHL team. They are both 100% privately funded with no tax burden on the citizens whatsoever.
2. MLS, NHL and NBA account for a TINY amount of the total sports betting revenue pulled in by Vegas casinos. If a team were to come into Vegas and betting would be ceased, there wouldn't be much of a loss.
NFL and MLB however is a massive chunk of the sports betting revenue and casinos would take a massive hit if betting would be banned from either of those sports.

Vegas is only a few degrees cooler than Phoenix in the Summertime... So if the city were to have an NFL or MLB team, there would need to be a climate controlled dome similar to Chase Field or Uni of AZ Stadium built in Las Vegas. This, I can assure you, would not be able to be 100% privately funded and the citizens are VERY strongly opposed to a tax increase to fund stadiums.

Out of the three sports in play, I hope it ends up being NHL... But it might be NBA considering their commish seems to be opening up ideas to a Vegas team.
^Thank you.
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Old 11-18-2014, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Washington, DC area
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I think Charlotte is the best choice. That is becoming a very populated area and there is a huge MLB void there. Plus, there are tons of transplants there from many MLB cities of the Northeast. Growing city, light rail in place, good MLB demographics. So I would go with Charlotte.

Having said that, I would hate to see the Rays leave Tampa. I just don't like it when teams move around. Tampa needs a new ballpark in downtown Tampa and I think they would do fine there unlike that disaster down in Miami.
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Old 11-18-2014, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Carrollwood, FL
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I think Charlotte is the best choice. That is becoming a very populated area and there is a huge MLB void there. Plus, there are tons of transplants there from many MLB cities of the Northeast. Growing city, light rail in place, good MLB demographics. So I would go with Charlotte.

Having said that, I would hate to see the Rays leave Tampa. I just don't like it when teams move around. Tampa needs a new ballpark in downtown Tampa and I think they would do fine there unlike that disaster down in Miami.
I agree I would hate if the Rays leave too since I live here lol, but I would like to point out you mention the transplants. A lot of people here blame the Marlins and Rays lack off attendance on the transplants, their theory is "they already have their favorite team, at best we are number 2, and we are lucky if we get them to come unless we play their number 1"..... I thought that was interesting.


....Of course crappy stadium (Tampa) and evil ownership (Miami) contribute too...
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Old 11-18-2014, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Northern Illinois
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If you believe it's called the "American League" for the purpose of defining the teams it contains, you must have a heck of a time trying to figure out the Big 10 conference in NCAA football.

Also, you may not, but the MLB definitely cares what the Blue Jays attendance is. Much the same as they care about the media market they are in, which is one of the largest and richest in North America. Your rationale falls apart quickly.
Yes, and it's people with your attitude and the media/big business that inanely glorify money/profits that are ruining organized sports. College mega-conferences like the current Big 10 are retarded. Funny thing is, universities like Rutgers now have to spend a lot more money when they get on a plane to fly to Nebraska for a game, so some people are probably loosing money on the new system, ha! But I digress. You can have your profits; you have wrecked baseball, college football, etc. with bloated leagues/conferences that have fractured rivalries/traditions, have nonsensical playoff systems, and don't even make geographical sense, and compromise the all-around fairness and integrity of the game. Congratulations on the alleged profits though.
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Old 11-19-2014, 04:05 AM
 
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Yes, and it's people with your attitude and the media/big business that inanely glorify money/profits that are ruining organized sports. College mega-conferences like the current Big 10 are retarded. Funny thing is, universities like Rutgers now have to spend a lot more money when they get on a plane to fly to Nebraska for a game, so some people are probably loosing money on the new system, ha! But I digress. You can have your profits; you have wrecked baseball, college football, etc. with bloated leagues/conferences that have fractured rivalries/traditions, have nonsensical playoff systems, and don't even make geographical sense, and compromise the all-around fairness and integrity of the game. Congratulations on the alleged profits though.
My attitude? All-around fairness? Wrecked baseball!? Wow....

Yep, you've got it, I've ruining organized sports by supporting a baseball team with a strong following that's been around since the '70s. Sorry the Jays haven't been around 100+ years like the Cubs without a WS since 1908. Maybe the Cubs won all the "integrity world series awards for geographical awareness" though.

What's laughable is that you believe geographical expansion has ruined a league's integrity, a league that had a team purposely lose a World Series (Chicago Black Sox), have multiple collective bargaining lock-outs including a lost 1994 WS, and rampant steroid issues to name a few (does Sammy Sosa ring a bell, remember him?).
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Old 11-19-2014, 05:12 AM
 
Location: Washington, DC area
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I agree I would hate if the Rays leave too since I live here lol, but I would like to point out you mention the transplants. A lot of people here blame the Marlins and Rays lack off attendance on the transplants, their theory is "they already have their favorite team, at best we are number 2, and we are lucky if we get them to come unless we play their number 1"..... I thought that was interesting.


....Of course crappy stadium (Tampa) and evil ownership (Miami) contribute too...
It seems like most transplants to FL are retired though while Charlotte gets a lot of transplants of middle class families from the NE which will translate into more MLB fans.

I don’t get Miami’s new stadium. It’s ugly for one and it’s not in a very good location. It’s much closer to downtown now, but still not really a downtown ballpark. They should have put that right in the city on the waterfront.

A baseball stadium in Tampa near the Time Forum arena would be sweet and really add some life to Downtown Tampa.
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Old 11-19-2014, 05:17 AM
 
Location: Washington, DC area
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There are too many baseball teams. Axe the Rays, Jays, Diamondbacks and Reds and go back to East-West divisions in both leagues with 2 LCSs and 1 World Series, period.
You are kidding right?

Jays and Reds are both great clubs with good fan bases and you want to get rid of them?

Yea, that will fix baseball
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Old 11-19-2014, 12:42 PM
 
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I kinda agree that we do not need any more teams! The teams are watered down as it is! Tampa is a big enough city that the Rays should get a new stadium! They have been a solid team for most of the last decade! They deserve a new ballpark! I don't feel that any of the cities on this list should get a New team. Perhaps a struggling team could relocate.
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Old 11-19-2014, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Aurora, CO
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I'm still waiting for Major League Baseball to come to Denver. The Rockies are a Double A club disguised as a MLB team. Charlotte's about the only appealing city in that list.
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Old 11-19-2014, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Carrollwood, FL
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It seems like most transplants to FL are retired though while Charlotte gets a lot of transplants of middle class families from the NE which will translate into more MLB fans.

I don’t get Miami’s new stadium. It’s ugly for one and it’s not in a very good location. It’s much closer to downtown now, but still not really a downtown ballpark. They should have put that right in the city on the waterfront.

A baseball stadium in Tampa near the Time Forum arena would be sweet and really add some life to Downtown Tampa.
I actually liked the Miami Ballpark when I went for a few games against my hometown Reds, the view of the city was nice, wasn't terrible to get to. I did hate the atmosphere, felt more like golf, almost like I could tell my girl in a normal voice what I wanted to eat from the other side its so quiet, and what few fans were there chanted "lets go heat" haha. Different flavors for different people I guess lol.

I would love to see the Rays get a stadium in that area or close to the lightning, it would be nice for sure. I did like the design for the "sail" park they had a few years ago (not sure if that is still on the table), but sitting in the sun on day games here would be a flat out miserable experience haha.
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