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Old 07-06-2019, 01:22 PM
 
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How were they able to be more consistent with being able to get great players in their history compared to other organizations?
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Old 07-06-2019, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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More money and resources which in part lead to better scouting ?
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Old 07-06-2019, 06:00 PM
 
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Babe Ruth was purchased for 100 k in December of 1919. Lou Gehrig, Tony Lazzeri, Mark Koenig, Charlie Keeler, Phil Rizzuto and Whitey Ford were all scouted and signed by Paul Krichell who had a 37 year reign as the Yankees chief of scouting. Gehrig was a pitcher and Ford was a firstbaseman, Kritchell persuaded both to change positions.

Joe Dimaggio was playing for the San Francisco Seals in the then independent Pacific Coast League. He became a hot property in 1932 when he put together a 61 game hitting streak. But then he suffered a serious knee injury which severely curtailed interest in him by most of the ML clubs. Yankee scout Bill Essick talked the NY front office into believing Dimaggio would recover, and they bought his contract from SF for 50 K.

Yogi Berra was an American legion player in St. Louis, first scouted by Branch Rickey. Rickey had one year left with the Cardinals before moving over as GM of the Dodgers, and he wanted to save Berra for Brooklyn. So instead of signing Berra with the Cardinals, he signed Berra's best friend, Joe Garagiola. But before Rickey could nab him for the Dodgers, the Yankees signed him for 500 dollars.

Mickey Mantle was playing semi-pro ball in Kansas when Yankee scout Tom Greenwade came there to evaluate one of Mantle's teammates. Mick blasted three long home runs that day and Greenwade wound up signing him for a 1500 dollar bonus.

From the time they moved to Kansas City, to the day they were purchased by Charlie Finley, the A's had been operated more or less as a high level Yankee farm club. In the 1950's it was that pipeline which produced 16 Yankee players including Bobby Shantz, Clete Boyer, Ryne Duren, Ralph Terry and Roger Maris.

They stunk for a decad after those guys got old, then Steinbrenner bought the team just in time for the dawn of free agency and we all know about his mega spending sprees which brought in the Reggies, and Catfishes, and Winfields and Giambis and so forth. However, they did not become their steadily successful selves again until the mid '90's when it was their farm system which was cranking out the Jeters, Riveras and Posadas.

The current team is largely home grown.

When you are smart you have an advantage. When you are wealthy you have an advantage. When you are smart and wealthy, you have a dynasty. The Yankees have always had the wealth, but except for two periods ('65-'76 when CBS owned them and '82-'94 under a constantly interfering Steinbrenner) they have also been smart.
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Old 07-06-2019, 11:05 PM
 
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An easier case could be made that they are the worst run sports franchise of the last 15 years. In that time they have outspent every team in the MLB. The result is the same number of World Series appearances (1) as the Rays, who have spent the least in the last 15 years. The difference in funds spent between the two during that time was well over $2 billion.

All of these teams have made more WS appearances than the Yankees in the last 15 years: Giants, Cardinals, Red Sox, Phillies, Astros, Rangers, Dodgers, and Tigers. A better question is why haven't the Yankees won the most?
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Old 07-07-2019, 07:44 AM
 
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An easier case could be made that they are the worst run sports franchise of the last 15 years. In that time they have outspent every team in the MLB. The result is the same number of World Series appearances (1) as the Rays, who have spent the least in the last 15 years. The difference in funds spent between the two during that time was well over $2 billion.

All of these teams have made more WS appearances than the Yankees in the last 15 years: Giants, Cardinals, Red Sox, Phillies, Astros, Rangers, Dodgers, and Tigers. A better question is why haven't the Yankees won the most?
It is more appropriate to judge a team on the basis of how often they positioned themselves to win in the post season rather than how frequently they triumphed after reaching it. I've written extensively and provided the data which shows that the post season is largely a crapshoot, any team can get hot and win in the short run, any quality team can experience a slump over a handful of games.

NY has not had a losing season since 1992. NY has reached the post season in 20 of the last 24 seasons. This is an extraordinarily successful team, WS wins or not.
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Old 07-07-2019, 11:34 AM
 
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Once upon a time the league was smaller. Less players in the majors. A team like the Yankees could afford to keep players in the minor leagues if necessary. They were able to build a pipeline of players that appeared to have no end. The path to the World Series was also easier. Had the playoffs been a thing throughout the history of baseball I'd wager teams like the Red Sox, Tigers and White Sox would have a lot more titles and some of their players may be viewed in a historical context the way Yankees players are.
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Old 07-07-2019, 07:54 PM
 
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How would you rate the Yankees ' managers?
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Old 07-07-2019, 08:18 PM
 
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It’s a business. They pay for high quality players. The more money they have.. the better players they can put under contract.
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Old 07-07-2019, 09:36 PM
 
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How would you rate the Yankees ' managers?
My top 6

1. Billy Martin
2. Billy Martin
3. Billy Martin
4. Billy Martin
5. Billy Martin
6. Casey Stengel
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Old 07-08-2019, 02:58 AM
 
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Any list of best Yankee managers would have to include Joe McCarthy, Casey Stengel, Miller Huggins, Joe Torre, and Ralph Houk. Maybe in that order, too.
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