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Old 04-21-2021, 11:43 AM
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I'm not an in-depth baseball expert by any stretch, but something seemed to change after '94 that made it nearly impossible for small market teams to compete, at least continually.
Yeah, they could throw all their chips in and make a run for it for... one year, then go back to the basement. Maybe things are getting a little better.
My perception could be a little skewed as a fan of the team owned by Mr. Walmart all those years. Cheap product, high profits...
I am grateful he left the team in Kansas City rather than move them off somewhere.
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Old 04-23-2021, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I'm not an in-depth baseball expert by any stretch, but something seemed to change after '94 that made it nearly impossible for small market teams to compete, at least continually.
Yeah, they could throw all their chips in and make a run for it for... one year, then go back to the basement. Maybe things are getting a little better.
My perception could be a little skewed as a fan of the team owned by Mr. Walmart all those years. Cheap product, high profits...
I am grateful he left the team in Kansas City rather than move them off somewhere.
Broadcasting revenue sharing makes big bucks for owners. Gate receipts for small market don't matter for cheaper owners.
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Old 04-23-2021, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Cumberland
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They field the most mediocre line-ups money can buy. It's fun to watch them spend a crap ton of money and end up with teams that still fall short.

Or to put it another way, I hate their guts because they represent everything wrong with baseball and take satisfaction when all the resources in the world gives them a 50/50 shot at being better than...........the Rays.
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Old 04-26-2021, 12:20 PM
 
Location: 215
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Wish the Phillies shared an ounce of their success. One of the greatest franchises in all of pro-sports.
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Old 04-27-2021, 01:51 PM
 
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I wish they didn't have the Indians' number. Almost every year. *sigh*
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Old 04-27-2021, 02:18 PM
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Let me explain...

I don't hate the Yankees more than rooting for the Royals. We'll get that out the way first. I generally don't pay hardly any attention at all to the Yankees.
However, it's hard to have much respect for a team whose fan base is 60% carpetbagging bandwagon and couldn't point out New York on a map much less been to the place.
Whenever their travelling circus side show comes to town, all the midwestern kids with their Yankees hats come out of the woodwork like they own the joint.
Some will wear T-shirts that say "got rings?", you know, like the "got milk?" campaign many years ago. The snark is an attempt to make us peons feel bad I guess.
They play in the biggest market and have the most money and have the most fan support outside of their region. The Cowboys of baseball, but older and more successful.
A non-New Yorker rooting for the Yankees just so they can cling to a winner is like rooting for Amazon. Yeah, I guess they can be impressive but at some point the fandom just gets weird.

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Old 04-28-2021, 12:40 AM
 
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LOL...do you really need to ask?

I hate MLB in general for their lack of ability to come up with some sort of equitable salary cap.
Same here. The Yankees are just one of 8-10 who take advantage of the lack of a salary cap to buy their way into competition. And it’s not so much an issue of who can afford the free agents, but who can afford to retain their homegrown players when they become free agents and who is forced to rebuild every four years because of their location and lack of a big-monied TV deal.
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Old 04-30-2021, 09:36 AM
 
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Let me explain...

I don't hate the Yankees more than rooting for the Royals. We'll get that out the way first. I generally don't pay hardly any attention at all to the Yankees.
However, it's hard to have much respect for a team whose fan base is 60% carpetbagging bandwagon and couldn't point out New York on a map much less been to the place.
Whenever their travelling circus side show comes to town, all the midwestern kids with their Yankees hats come out of the woodwork like they own the joint.
Some will wear T-shirts that say "got rings?", you know, like the "got milk?" campaign many years ago. The snark is an attempt to make us peons feel bad I guess.
They play in the biggest market and have the most money and have the most fan support outside of their region. The Cowboys of baseball, but older and more successful.
A non-New Yorker rooting for the Yankees just so they can cling to a winner is like rooting for Amazon. Yeah, I guess they can be impressive but at some point the fandom just gets weird.
I'm in NYC metro, I haven't seen the Got Rings shirt in years. Every sport has it's bandwagon rooters.
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Old 04-30-2021, 09:40 AM
 
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Same here. The Yankees are just one of 8-10 who take advantage of the lack of a salary cap to buy their way into competition. And it’s not so much an issue of who can afford the free agents, but who can afford to retain their homegrown players when they become free agents and who is forced to rebuild every four years because of their location and lack of a big-monied TV deal.
Money matters less and less each year. Teams like the A's and Rays have become perennial relevants. 95% of the league is 500 now. They don't play baseball anymore. It's all about out-solo homering the other team to win a ballgame. The Yankees are paying Dave Kingman aka Giancarlo Stanton 25M/yr. If Kingman (a strike out and homer machine, like clockwork) was really playing today he would be one of the leagues biggest stars.
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Old 04-30-2021, 09:40 AM
 
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I'm in NYC metro, I haven't seen the Got Rings shirt in years. Every sport has it's bandwagon rooters.
Does not make it any less annoying. The previous poster was dead on about Yankee fans in other markets. I have seen it in Detroit, Chicago and Arizona. Describing them as the Cowboys fans of baseball is accurate.
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