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Old 07-15-2022, 06:04 AM
 
Location: Apex, NC
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$ = wins ...its undeniable, or no team would be spending 2x, or 3x as much as other teams.

I'd love to see how the Yankees & Dodgers would do on the Rays budget.

Who cares? the 2nd tier teams fans who rarley get to see theri teams compete for the Division, Pennant, or Series, that's who. Meanwhile, the teams fans who spend 'uge sums of cash pound theri chests & boast abot their teams.
The Rays could afford to spend more if their attendance wasn’t abysmal every single year. I look at it a bit more “what could the Rays do if they were drawing more than 13k fans per year?” With as competitive as that team is year in and year out, it’s pretty poor they’re bottom 3 in attendance every single year.

Since 2010 the winningest teams in MLB:

1 Los Angeles Dodgers
2 New York Yankees
3 St. Louis Cardinals
4 Tampa Bay Rays
5 Boston Red Sox

Where do those teams rank in attendance over the same period?

1. Dodgers
2. Cardinals
3. Yankees
8. Red Sox
29. Rays

That’s insane to me. The Rays consistently put out a top tier product and get absolute bottom barrel attendance. With even average attendance they might be able to build a dynasty! I out Oakland in a somewhat similar range, but Tampa is more consistent. I go to the Durham Bulls games often and their farm system is incredible. They have a great team practically every single year.

Unfortunately, the competitive imbalance isn’t going to change in baseball. The players are 100% against a salary cap. Every CBA negotiation they fight to raise the competitive balance tax ceiling so teams like the Yankees, Dodgers, Mets, etc, can give players gigantic long term contracts. They want nothing to do with a salary cap. And on the flip side, I think a cap would be in the $150m-$175m to make players happy with a floor of not much lower. How do you think that would go over telling Pittsburgh they have to spend 70-80 million more than they’re spending now? Yikes.

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Old 07-15-2022, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Hiatus
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The Rays could afford to spend more if their attendance wasn’t abysmal every single year. I look at it a bit more “what could the Rays do if they were drawing more than 13k fans per year?” With as competitive as that team is year in and year out, it’s pretty poor they’re bottom 3 in attendance every single year.

Since 2010 the winningest teams in MLB:

1 Los Angeles Dodgers
2 New York Yankees
3 St. Louis Cardinals
4 Tampa Bay Rays
5 Boston Red Sox

Where do those teams rank in attendance over the same period?

1. Dodgers
2. Cardinals
3. Yankees
8. Red Sox
29. Rays

That’s insane to me. The Rays consistently put out a top tier product and get absolute bottom barrel attendance. With even average attendance they might be able to build a dynasty! I out Oakland in a somewhat similar range, but Tampa is more consistent. I go to the Durham Bulls games often and their farm system is incredible. They have a great team practically every single year.

Unfortunately, the competitive imbalance isn’t going to change in baseball. The players are 100% against a salary cap. Every CBA negotiation they fight to raise the competitive balance tax ceiling so teams like the Yankees, Dodgers, Mets, etc, can give players gigantic long term contracts. They want nothing to do with a salary cap. And on the flip side, I think a cap would be in the $150m-$175m to make players happy with a floor of not much lower. How do you think that would go over telling Pittsburgh they have to spend 70-80 million more than they’re spending now? Yikes.
What are the bottom tier teams doing with all the money they get from revenue sharing? are the Pirates and Rays investing back in the payroll or just pocketing?
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Old 07-15-2022, 09:47 AM
 
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Who cares?? The bottom 10 teams have more World Series titles combined in the last 12 years then the top 5 do! And the only title the top 5 has in that time frame came in a shortened season.
Who cares is right. Just be a fan, that's all that matters.
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