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Old 08-06-2015, 12:50 PM
 
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Heyward was traded because he was entering his contract year and had an opportunity to bring us back value. There is a very good chance the Braves will look into signing Heyward in the offseason.
Do you think that they were disappointed in Heyward's lack of progress at the plate? I don't want to make it sound like he was a bust but he hasn't developed yet into the 25 to 30 HR/100 RBI guy that the front office probably envisioned. A contract with him would be really tricky to gauge, as he will only turn 26 later on this week and the team that wins the bidding will likely still be betting on continued growth and improvement.
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Old 08-06-2015, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Do you think that they were disappointed in Heyward's lack of progress at the plate? I don't want to make it sound like he was a bust but he hasn't developed yet into the 25 to 30 HR/100 RBI guy that the front office probably envisioned. A contract with him would be really tricky to gauge, as he will only turn 26 later on this week and the team that wins the bidding will likely still be betting on continued growth and improvement.
Oh, I'm sure that entered into the thought process by dumping him. But I wouldn't be surprised if we enter the bidding war for him.
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Old 08-06-2015, 01:37 PM
 
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I am just curious what the front office thinks he is worth. I think that I would absolutely be willing to do $96 million over 6 years (16 million per year) or $102 million over 6 years (17 million per year) with a 7th year option. However, if the bidding climbs up into the $140 million over 7 years range or higher (and it could), then I would probably be a little hesitant to go that high.
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Old 08-06-2015, 11:01 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Default Game #109 (2015-08-06, 19:10): Braves 9, Marlins 8

Eury Perez singled in the eighth inning to bat in Daniel Castro for the winning run as the Braves defeated the Marlins 9-8. Adonis Garcia homered for the fourth time this season.

Andrew McKirahan (1-0), who allowed three runs in the eighth inning, won the decision. Arodys Vizcaino earned his first save.
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Old 08-06-2015, 11:05 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Default Game #110 (2015-08-07, 19:35): Marlins at Braves

Miami Marlins:
Record: 43-66
Standing: Fourth, National League East Division (15.5 games behind New York Mets)

Atlanta Braves:
Record: 49-60
Standing: Third, National League East Division (9.5 games behind New York Mets)

Starting pitchers:
Marlins: Jose Fernandez (4-0, 2.13 earned run average, 47 strikeouts)
Braves: Julio Teheran (7-6, 4.59 earned run average, 113 strikeouts)
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Old 08-06-2015, 11:09 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Heyward was traded because he was entering his contract year and had an opportunity to bring us back value. There is a very good chance the Braves will look into signing Heyward in the offseason.
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Do you think that they were disappointed in Heyward's lack of progress at the plate? I don't want to make it sound like he was a bust but he hasn't developed yet into the 25 to 30 HR/100 RBI guy that the front office probably envisioned. A contract with him would be really tricky to gauge, as he will only turn 26 later on this week and the team that wins the bidding will likely still be betting on continued growth and improvement.
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Oh, I'm sure that entered into the thought process by dumping him. But I wouldn't be surprised if we enter the bidding war for him.
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I am just curious what the front office thinks he is worth. I think that I would absolutely be willing to do $96 million over 6 years (16 million per year) or $102 million over 6 years (17 million per year) with a 7th year option. However, if the bidding climbs up into the $140 million over 7 years range or higher (and it could), then I would probably be a little hesitant to go that high.
If Heyward was not progressing enough to be worth keeping, the Braves made a wise move to get someone in return.

I do not know where the Cardinals and Heyward stand in regards to re-signing.
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Old 08-07-2015, 05:37 AM
 
Location: Florida
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If Heyward was not progressing enough to be worth keeping, the Braves made a wise move to get someone in return.

I do not know where the Cardinals and Heyward stand in regards to re-signing.
Another gem of a post with NO NEW INFORMATION.

If you can't actually add anything to the discussion, maybe don't post.

Heyward was traded due to being in a contract year and this being a rebuilding team. It is very possible the Braves will look to resign him. I doubt the Cardinals will sign him though.
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Old 08-07-2015, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Trumbull/Danbury
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So Chris Johnson is gone but you take on Michael Bourn & Nick Swisher. I'm confused by the move???

I think Swisher is a FA after this season, so he's probably not costing much money, but I think Bourn still has 2 or more years left. So you gave away one bad, overpaid player and got back 2 bad, overpaid players instead?? Did the Braves get Carrassco or Kluber in the deal??
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Old 08-07-2015, 11:36 PM
 
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The understanding that I have is that Bourn's and Swisher's contracts both technically end at the end of the 2016 season but have an option for 2017 which can vest if they get enough at bats in 2016. The Braves will almost certainly make sure those 2017 options don't vest, which means 2016 would be their last season with Atlanta.

Chris Johnson, on the other hand will be paid by Cleveland through the 2017 season and they will also have to pay him a 1 million dollar buyout for 2018. I also read that the Indians are kicking in some cash to even out the total dollars owed between the two sides.

I think it is a pretty good deal for Atlanta. Chris Johnson was/is absolutely useless but I think there is some hope that Bourn and/or Swisher could be remotely useful (which is, again, more than CJ can do). It also clears more money off the books for the 2017 season. I think Cleveland was pretty stupid to take on CJ's contract.
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Old 08-08-2015, 04:40 AM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Default Game #110 (2015-08-07, 19:35): Braves 6, Marlins 3

The four run seventh inning rally propelled the Braves to the 6-3 win over the Marlins. Ross Detwiler (1-5) won the decision. Arodys Vizcaino (2) earned the save.
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