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Old 05-14-2023, 07:16 PM
 
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New documentary on Yogi Berra for die-hard fans who like history.


Yogi Berra on the Field: The Case for Baseball Greatness
A new documentary argues that the Yankee catcher was not just a malaprop-prone, beloved celebrity but also a legend of the game.

“This guy was criminally overlooked his whole life, at every stage,” said Sean Mullin, the film’s director...
The statistic that most impresses Lindsay Berra comes from 1950. That season, Yogi went to the plate 656 times and struck out just 12 times: “That to me will always be astonishing, because guys today strike out 12 times in a weekend.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/08/m...cumentary.html
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Old 05-14-2023, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Miami (prev. NY, Atlanta, SF, OC and San Diego)
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To me, I’m amazed he won the MVP award 3 times with Mickey Mantle on the team.
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Old 05-15-2023, 01:42 PM
 
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New documentary on Yogi Berra for die-hard fans who like history.


Yogi Berra on the Field: The Case for Baseball Greatness
A new documentary argues that the Yankee catcher was not just a malaprop-prone, beloved celebrity but also a legend of the game.

“This guy was criminally overlooked his whole life, at every stage,” said Sean Mullin, the film’s director...
The statistic that most impresses Lindsay Berra comes from 1950. That season, Yogi went to the plate 656 times and struck out just 12 times: “That to me will always be astonishing, because guys today strike out 12 times in a weekend.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/08/m...cumentary.html
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To me, I’m amazed he won the MVP award 3 times with Mickey Mantle on the team.

I always thought that about Yogi once I looked at his stats. He was, obviously, before my time. When I first heard of him it was for what he said. once you looked at him as a ballplayer. Wow.

The guy was one hell of a ballplayer. And healthy as well. Kinda rare for a catcher in that era. ANY era for that matter.

From 1948 to 1961 he averaged playing 134 games a year. Never striking out more than 38 times in a season, while averaging about 490 ABs


As for Mantle.. Berra's last MVP years were 54 and 55, which were Mantle's 4th and 5th years.. So.. Mantle was just getting into his prime then, and.. In 56.. They were 1-2 in MVP.



Yogi became MORE famous for what he said.. And at times, what he didn't say as many things attributed to him he never said.. Which.. He famously retold as "I never said half the things I said"



The year they finished 1-2.. Mantle had a .306/.431/.611/1.042 with an OPS+ of 180 while Berra was .272/.349/.470/.819 with an OPS+ of 120


So.. They got it right. In '54.. Mantle led the league in strikeouts at 107. Something he did 5 times in his career.

Berra, so far as I know, never led the league in any offensive categories. but he was always NEAR the top.
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Old 05-15-2023, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Baker City, Oregon
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Had Yogi been a New York avant-garde poet instead of a catcher for the baseball team, instead of making fun of him for what he said, the intelligentsia would have hailed him as brilliant.
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Old 05-19-2023, 03:43 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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I just got a book from my local library titled: Yogi, A Life Behind The Mask by Jon Pessah. Only about 40 pages into its 500+ but so far it's got my interest. From everything I've read in other places he was at least as good a man as he was a ballplayer and he was a helluva ballplayer!
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Old 05-20-2023, 09:18 AM
 
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I just got a book from my local library titled: Yogi, A Life Behind The Mask by Jon Pessah. Only about 40 pages into its 500+ but so far it's got my interest. From everything I've read in other places he was at least as good a man as he was a ballplayer and he was a helluva ballplayer!

When you get to the part about him managing the Yankees.. I'd be interested to hear about that. He was estranged from the Yankees for quite some time during Steinbrenner's ownership due to being.. At least quasi-fired.
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Old 05-20-2023, 04:09 PM
 
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When you get to the part about him managing the Yankees.. I'd be interested to hear about that. He was estranged from the Yankees for quite some time during Steinbrenner's ownership due to being.. At least quasi-fired.

I'll be happy to let you know but it'll likely be a while, right now I'm only up to the beginning of WW II and I kn ow he spent time in the service.
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Old 05-27-2023, 05:59 AM
 
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When you get to the part about him managing the Yankees.. I'd be interested to hear about that. He was estranged from the Yankees for quite some time during Steinbrenner's ownership due to being.. At least quasi-fired.


Oh, he was definitely let go, what created the rift between Yogi and Steinbrenner was Steinbrenner sending one of his minions to do the deed and not having the class to do it himself. My take is that Steinbrenner, like many people very successful in one field imagined his expertise transferred to all other fields, it seems like Steinbrenner questioned every decision Yogi made as manager and that he (GS) considered himself Yogi's equal in baseball wisdom.

And I have to say, the book was excellent, 500+ pages went by quickly and left no doubt that not only was Yogi's baseball career truly HoF worthy but that Yogi himself was a good, trustworthy man. I was always an NL fan beginning with the Brooklyn Dodgers when I was a kid but I'm definitely a Yogi fan as much for the kind of character he showed as anything else.
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