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Old 01-25-2011, 11:06 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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This is depressing

PS PLAYER OBP/SLG
SS Furcal .340/.400
2B Uribe .310/.410
RF Ethier .360/.500
CF Kemp .330/.460
1B Loney .350/.400
3B Blake .330/.430
C Barajas .280/.400
LF Thames/Gibbons/Gwynn .310/.400

My lineup expects to generate 4.133 runs per game

The ideal lineup
is expected to produce 4.368 runs per game

the worst lineup
is expected to produce 3.784 runs per game

Redoing the Dodgers lineup using Zips
BBTF's Transaction Oracle Discussion :: 2011 ZiPS Projections - Los Angeles Dodgers

Lineup Analysis

Runs per game for above lineup: 4.149

Best lineup
Loney, Ethier, Thames/etc, Kemp, Blake, Barajas, Uribe, PITCHER, Furcal=4.354

Worst lineup
PITCHER, Thames/etc, Kemp, Blake, Uribe, Furcal, Loney, Ethier, Barajas=3.795
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Old 01-25-2011, 11:21 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Florida Marlins
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1 - Omar Infante (2b)
2 - Logan Morrison (lf)
3 - Hanley Ramirez (ss)
4 - Michael Stanton (rf)
5 - Gaby Sanchez (1b)
6 - Chris Coghlan (cf)
7 - Emelio Bonifacio (3b)
8 - John Buck (c)
9 - Josh Johnson (p)
BBTF's Transaction Oracle Discussion :: 2011 ZiPS Projections - Florida Marlins

Lineup Analysis

Runs per game for above lineup: 4.459.

Best lineup
Morrison, Hanley, Infante, Stanton, Coghlan, Buck, Sanchez, PITCHER, Bonifacio=4.749

Worst lineup
PITCHER, Bonifacio, Sancez, Infante, Buck, Coghlan, Morrison, Hanley, Stanton=4.037
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Old 01-26-2011, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Asheville
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the 2011 Boston Red Sox

1) Carl Crawford-LF
2) Dustin Pedroia-2B
3) Adrian Gonzalez-1B
4) Kevin Youkilis-3B
5) David Ortiz- DH
6) JD Drew- RF
7) Marco Scuttaro/ Jed Lowrie- SS
8) Salty/ Varitek- C
9) Jacoby Ellsbury- CF
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Old 01-26-2011, 09:13 AM
 
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Florida Marlins


BBTF's Transaction Oracle Discussion :: 2011 ZiPS Projections - Florida Marlins

Lineup Analysis

Runs per game for above lineup: 4.459.

Best lineup
Morrison, Hanley, Infante, Stanton, Coghlan, Buck, Sanchez, PITCHER, Bonifacio=4.749

Worst lineup
PITCHER, Bonifacio, Sancez, Infante, Buck, Coghlan, Morrison, Hanley, Stanton=4.037
Interesting - I think that lineup would ensure a new manager for the new stadium .... but it's always interesting to see what the numbers say

I'd feel a lot better with a good bat at 3B and a good defender at CF............
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Old 01-26-2011, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Interesting - I think that lineup would ensure a new manager for the new stadium .... but it's always interesting to see what the numbers say

I'd feel a lot better with a good bat at 3B and a good defender at CF............
Yeah. Bonifacio and Coghlan are likely to be terrible.

Coghlan is, optimistically, an average left fielder - career UZR / 150 of - 6 and TZ of 1. He's more likely a -5 ish fielder in LF. But, if he were an average LFer that'd make him, likely, a -5 to -10 CFer as the difference between LF and CF is generally accepted to be about 7.5 runs.

Bonifacio...is not a major league player with his bat. His career wRC+ is 68. Which means he's produced 68% as many runs as the average major league hitter. That's terrible.

Bonifacio's career wOBA is .295.



a .295 wOBA puts him in the bottom 10% of hitters in the league.
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Old 01-26-2011, 06:31 PM
 
Location: On the Edge of the Fringe
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Heh, well played sir.

Thanks

You laugh, but we who live here in Florida will be sitting through Spring Training at McKechnie Field shaking our heads again saying "WHY....HOW??????"

And we will all be wearing our best Pirates gear, standing behind our team but still saying
"Why, how?"
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Old 01-26-2011, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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Minnesota...

1) Denard Span CF
2) Tsuyoshi Nishioki (SS)
3) Joe Mauer (C)
4) Justin Morneau (1B)
5) Michael Cuddyer (RF)
6) Delmon Young (LF)
7) Jason Kubel (DH)
8) Danny Valencia (3B)
9) Alexi Casilla (2B)
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Old 01-26-2011, 10:06 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Minnesota...

1) Denard Span CF
2) Tsuyoshi Nishioki (SS)
3) Joe Mauer (C)
4) Justin Morneau (1B)
5) Michael Cuddyer (RF)
6) Delmon Young (LF)
7) Jason Kubel (DH)
8) Danny Valencia (3B)
9) Alexi Casilla (2B)
BBTF's Transaction Oracle Discussion :: 2011 ZiPS Projections - Minnesota Twins

Lineup Analysis

Runs per game for above lineup: 5.125.

Best lineup
Mauer, Morneau, Nishioki, Kubel, Cuddyer, Young, Valencia, Casilla, Spahn=5.182

Worst lineup
Valencia, Nishioki, Kubel, Casilla, Cuddyer, Mauer, Spahn, Morneau, Young=4.810

The Twinkies can hit a little...and play a solid defense...the pitchers aren't bad but are the weak link...this is a good team though
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Old 01-26-2011, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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BBTF's Transaction Oracle Discussion :: 2011 ZiPS Projections - Minnesota Twins

Lineup Analysis

Runs per game for above lineup: 5.125.

Best lineup
Mauer, Morneau, Nishioki, Kubel, Cuddyer, Young, Valencia, Casilla, Spahn=5.182

Worst lineup
Valencia, Nishioki, Kubel, Casilla, Cuddyer, Mauer, Spahn, Morneau, Young=4.810

The Twinkies can hit a little...and play a solid defense...the pitchers aren't bad but are the weak link...this is a good team though
Wait! Kubel instead of Thome? Really?

Adding Thome to the lineup adds about 1/10th of a run a game. Big deal, you say. Well...that's 16 runs a season. Or 1.5 wins.

Lineup Analysis

Runs per game for above lineup: 5.231.

Best lineup
Mauer, Morneau, Nishioki, Thome, Cuddyer, Young, Valencia, Casilla, Spahn=5.309

Worst lineup
Valencia, Nishioki, Young, Casilla, Cuddyer, Mauer, Spahn, Morneau, Thome=4.915

Another thing to notice about this twins lineup. The Best lineup and the Traditional lineup are about the same. Just with the hitters shifted up a few times.

In the traditional lineup:
Spahn is followed by Nishioki then the boppers in Mauer and Morneau. Then the other power hitters Cuddyer, Young, and Kubel are followed by Valencia and Casilla.

In the best lineup:
Spahn is followed directly by Mauer and Morneau. Then Nishioki. Then the other power hitters are followed by Valencia and Casilla.

The main difference is that Mauer and Morneau (the Twins best two hitters) are moved two spots forward. The reason for this is that over a season each spot in the lineup receives about 16 more plate appearances than the spot after it. By moving Morneau and Mauer 2 spots forward the Twins would get each about 32 extra plate appearances. Having your best players bat more, is a good strategy for winning games. And you're still getting Spahn (the 'leadoff' hitter) to hit 'in front' of them.
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Old 01-27-2011, 07:23 AM
 
Location: NE PA
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Phils:

Rollins SS
Polanco 3B
Utley 2B
Howard 1B
Ibanez LF
Victorino CF
Francisco RF
Ruiz C
Halladay P
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