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Old 06-26-2017, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Parts Unknown, Northern California
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The above was written under some time constraints.

The main issue with the team is probably their slowness in coming around to modern metrics. It isn't that they are doing nothing in this area, but they are doing less than other clubs. One way we can know this is the astonishingly foolish contract they gave to Mark Melanchon.

In terms of value to a club, as measured by WAR or other advanced metrics, a league average starting pitcher outproduces all but perhaps a half dozen elite relievers each season. The reason is the difference in innings pitched. At best your reliever is going to contribute 80 innings, although more likely 70. The starter on the other hand is going to rack up 210 innings provided he stays healthy and pitches at a league average rate. The excellence of a top reliever may be enough to make up for that difference in workload, but only if he is having an elite season.

Further, Billy Beane conducted what amounted to a clinic on establishing that "proven closers" can be manufactured in a given year. Instead of spending outrageous sums for that "proven closer" the A's would turn someone into one, and then with his perceived value much higher, flip him the next year for help at another position. Or the A's would let him walk if he was a free agent and gladly accept the compensating draft pick. (New rules have ended this practice.)

So....if you are the GM of a club and the financial people inform you that you may have 75 million dollars to work the free agent market this off season, just about the stupidest thing you can do is to give it all to one player who even if he performs at an elite level, will only be as valuable as a league average starter who could have been signed for much less.

And that is how we know that when it comes to employing modern metrics, the Giants are still something of the north end of a south bound dinosaur. The fact that I, an average fan, have learned enough to know how dumb such a move would be, while the decision makers on the Giants have not...that is the main issue with the team.
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Old 07-02-2017, 05:39 PM
 
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Default Fan catches foul ball but loses it

Giants v Pirates today

Kuiper and Lopez kept talking about something that happened in the stands in the bottom of the 2nd. But the camera never showed it, not on NSBA. Something about a dad and son... Then Kuiper arranged for one of his staff to go to the stands and give the son a replacement ball. Did any of you see what happened or know where it can be viewed.
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Old 07-17-2017, 07:39 AM
 
Location: SFBA CA USA — Go Giants!
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Didn't see or hear about that, LiaLia.


Cleveland Indians at San Francisco Giants tonight, and we've got tickets! RHP Josh Tomlin (5-9. 5.90) goes against LHP Matt Moore (3-9, 6.04).
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Old 07-17-2017, 07:51 AM
 
Location: SFBA CA USA — Go Giants!
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Default Link to Sortable Schedule for SF Giants?

Can someone find the Link to the Sortable Schedule for SF Giants? I have searched but my Google-fu is failing me.

The sortable schedule has a format that I really love. The entire season on one page (no having to page through month by month), and you simply scroll down to see a nice summary. In a neat table it gives you columns showing (from memory I think they are) date, opponent, result (W/L), and winning and losing pitchers. Maybe even who got the save, as applicable. For future games it gives you possible pitching matchups for the next few games.

I really like this format but can't find it now. Can someone help?
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Old 03-23-2018, 06:31 PM
 
Location: CA
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Fractured pinky in Madison Bumgarner's pitching hand. Out at least a few months.
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Old 03-23-2018, 11:53 PM
 
Location: SFBA CA USA — Go Giants!
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Yeah, and I heard he’ll need screws in the bones of his hand. This recovery will be very tricky.

Also, Samardzija is out for a couple of weeks with a muscle strain. Looks like Cueto will be the Opening Day starter.

It’s looking rough.
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Old 03-24-2018, 02:34 AM
 
Location: 415->916->602
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this team is cursed...
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Old 03-27-2018, 12:25 AM
 
Location: SFBA CA USA — Go Giants!
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Ty Blach will be the Opening Day pitcher. And they’ve announced they’ll have a 4-man rotation. I think it’ll be Ty Blach, Johnny Cueto, Derek Holland, and Chris Stratton. Blach and Holland are lefties, and Cueto and Stratton are righties.
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Old 03-27-2018, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Parts Unknown, Northern California
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They have McCutchen who was last an All Star in 2015, and Longoria who was last an All Star in 2010, and Austin Jackson who finished second in the Rookie of the Year voting in 2010 but has never made an All Star appearance.

These three were not going to be enough to change a 64 win team into a wild card contender before the injuries to Bumgarner and Samardzija. Now they have a patched together rotation, an old team on the field and the second highest payroll in all of baseball.

There aren't any reasons beyond a fan's never failing hope, to believe that this club will be in contention in 2018, or for at least several years after that. They are relying on methods that worked in the past, but are unlikely to work any longer with so many clubs becoming metric smart in the last several years. The Giants not only need to tear the current team apart, they need to expand their metrics department and start listening to what they have to say.
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Old 03-31-2018, 11:56 AM
 
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After the first game the team was on a pace to go 162-0, and outscore the opposition 162-0, with Joe Panik driving in all 162 runs via 162 solo homers.

After two games, none of the above has changed.
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