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Originally Posted by swayalot
I know Jordan's 32-8-8 season is very big, but look at his steals/blocks in 1987-88:
35.0 points
5.9 assists
5.5 rebounds
3.2 steals
1.6 blocks
.535 field goals
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Yeah thats amazing if you think about it.
Plus his 10 scoring titles & DPOY award is probably a record that'll never be broken by a guard.
That's why i dont get how people can compare Lebron to the Greatness of Jordan.
Lebron is basically the 2nd version of Oscar Robertson.
He's a top 10 great for sure but Jordan is the GOAT hands down.
The only way someone can surpass Jordan is to lead their team to 7 titles with 7 finals Mvps with no losses in the finals PERIOD.
Kobe & Duncan got so close to be honest but they both fell short with a couple losses in the finals.
Kobe had a great shot to accomplish a 2nd 3peat in 2011 but his team was simply out of gas vs Dallas.They been in the finals every year since 2008 and won back to back from 09 & 10 so i could understand.But had Kobe won at least 1 more ring,he would be the closest to Jordan in terms of success. [ 6 Rings ]
Than there's Magic Johnson,who also has 5 rings and believe it or not some consider him or Kareem the GOAT.
If Lebron loses another finals this year,which is highly likely than i believe his window his closed.
Curry is the closest player with enough time on his hands to chase Jordan in terms of winning titles.At best i see the Warriors winning 2 or 3 more championships until the Dynasty is over.
So it looks like Jordan will stay the GOAT for the next 20 years or maybe forever.
Lebron actually had the best shot to surpass Jordan because he's arguably bigger,stronger & faster.
But it was the killer instinct that seperated Jordan from the rest.His passion & will to win was unhuman and the only player with that same fire was Kobe of course.
When Lebron went to Miami it upset alot of people because he teamed up with other Superstars.
I cant see Jordan calling Magic & Bird and saying hey lets form a Super team so we can chase rings.I mean you cant blame Lebron but when you wanna be remembered as the GOAT,than you kill all your competetion so there's no doubt who the Greatest is.
But even than,had Lebron and the Heat won every final they was in he would have at least 4 or 5 titles right now.
His performance in the 2011 finals was horrible.
Many say 2013 was luck because if the Ray Allen shot misses or Duncan was in the game to grab the rebound than that's another finals loss.
2015 & 16 are hard to judge because his team was hurt in 2015 and than in 2016,there's so many things people point out to say the Warriors were screwed so basically his only title won without any controversy was in 2012.
But it's the past now,2017 Finals will clear up any doubt to what happen in 2015 & 16.
Now lets say Lebron performs a miracle and wins,he'll still only have 4 rings to Jordan's 6.
He's 32 years old now and is starting to run out of gas because he's played so many minutes coming straight out of high school like Kobe.
Lebron is tired and like i said with another loss the window is closed.
If he retired today,he's done enough to go down as a top 10 but he just wont be the GOAT.
Some even rank him over Kobe,Shaq,Magic & Duncan now which is hilarious.
Than others say he's already the GOAT or 2nd behind Jordan.
But anyone who knows the game know you gotta have those rings when it's all said and done.
So i stand by what i said.There's many great players in the Nba today but nobody has a chance to surpass Jordan in titles besides Curry and that's at best.
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