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View Poll Results: Who is (was) the better coach?
Phil Jackson 7 38.89%
Greg Popovich 11 61.11%
Voters: 18. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-05-2019, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Who (is) was the better coach?
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Old 09-05-2019, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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That's a tough one, since so much of what a coach does is behind the scenes, and thus impossible for the average fan to judge. Jackson has 11 rings, and Pop 5. Kind of hard to argue for Pop based on that stat alone.
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Old 09-06-2019, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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Interesting note about Jackson vs. Pop. The Spurs had Dennis Rodman in 1993-4 when pop was still an assistant coach. Rodman had various problems with them, including being suspended, getting hurt in a motorcycle accident, etc.

For 1995-6. the 34 year old Rodman was traded to the Bulls for center Will Perdue and cash. Rodman seemed to thrive under Jackson, who evidently knew how to handle him better than Pop. Rodman won 3 rings with the Bulls, including the record-setting 72 win season.
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Old 09-06-2019, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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I’d have to gravitate towards Pop. He’s been getting his teams to the playoffs post-Duncan/Leonard with very mediocre rosters and looks like he can build a competitor with anyone. Jackson was great at handling difficult personalities and psychological games with his opponents, but he was also a front-runner who only coached teams when they had generational talent on the roster.
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Old 09-07-2019, 09:07 AM
 
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To his credit, there's a "school of Pop" coaching tree in basketball, where today's playoff-contending and championship-winning coaches started their career on the Spurs, either as an assistant or retiring player. Jackson's coaching influence seems confined to his years on the Bulls and Lakers.
It's hard to make a 1-to-1 comparison, as both reached successes that the other wasn't or hasn't been able to achieve.
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Old 09-07-2019, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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To his credit, there's a "school of Pop" coaching tree in basketball, where today's playoff-contending and championship-winning coaches started their career on the Spurs, either as an assistant or retiring player. Jackson's coaching influence seems confined to his years on the Bulls and Lakers.
It's hard to make a 1-to-1 comparison, as both reached successes that the other wasn't or hasn't been able to achieve.
Excellent point. There's Budenholzer, Steve Kerr, and others whom I can't recall right now. If I'm a GM I would always be looking for coaches with S.A. experience.
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Old 09-09-2019, 03:22 PM
 
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Excellent point. There's Budenholzer, Steve Kerr, and others whom I can't recall right now. If I'm a GM I would always be looking for coaches with S.A. experience.
Couldn't Kerr equally be considered part of the Phil Jackson coaching tree?
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Old 09-09-2019, 06:03 PM
 
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Couldn't Kerr equally be considered part of the Phil Jackson coaching tree?
Yes, for sure. But I don't think that Phil Jackson has nearly as many proteges who went on to NBA success.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comment...hing_tree_and/


Avery Johnson could be another one not often mentioned. He came out of S.A. and IMO was an underrated coach.
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Old 10-10-2019, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, OH
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Excellent point. There's Budenholzer, Steve Kerr, and others whom I can't recall right now. If I'm a GM I would always be looking for coaches with S.A. experience.
Wouldn't put Steve Kerr on that list. He only played for Pop and Phil Jackson, he wasn't on Pop's coaching staff.
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Old 10-14-2019, 09:54 AM
 
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Pop makes boneheaded mistakes, while Phil Jackson is flawless.
Its not even close.
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