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Old 06-07-2013, 11:54 AM
 
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This post says a lot about you and your mentality.

There is a right way and a wrong way to do things. I remain appalled at your actions since this is what you have determined to be the "best" way to deal with the situation. It is sad what the world is becoming.

Generally I say treat people the way you expect to be treated. I sure hope nobody else treats anyone the way you do...........

I agree that people that are actually causing a problem should be dealt with but in the correct manner. I am not fully up on all of HI's law yet but I know in most other states there are more then enough APPROPRIATE laws to deal with this.
Exactly. Great Post.
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Old 06-07-2013, 05:24 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the Kona coffee fields
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It is sad, disheartening and downright ill-advised that this is true. Gun Laws virtually-always restrict only the potential victims of crime, and almost-never the potential perpetrators of crime.

Net result, the imbalance of power between predator (criminal) and prey (crime victim) is imbalanced even more in favor of the criminal.

Such laws COST so many lives every year as to be near-treasonous, but then weapons control has always been a political, not crime-fighting, tool, since the days when weapons had cutting edges and sharp ponts, as opposed to barrels and triggers.

It would be like telling a flock of sheep that you are going to protect them against wolf-attack by tying their legs together, while sharpening the wolf's teeth.

Hawaii is no different in this global reality. Luckily, Hawaii's "makeup" does not tend toward violent crime in the first place, or it would be a slaughter-house like Detroit or Chicago.

This reality has been studied, documented and proven time and time-again by professionals observing real-world experience for many decades and is, in reality, indisputable, and it is to Hawaii's detriment that such laws exist.
See, myself and two neighbors have been shot at/stray bullets in their own house or yard at different times by so called 'hunters' a few years back. Now I use the existing laws and my assigned police precinct to prevent this from reoccurring. That's my 'defense' and it works. I don't need to whine about Obama or how things were different back then and especially somewhere else. I also don't need a bigger gun to shoot back at others. Our life is good, the keikis are happy, and everybody's safe. Hawaii can be paradise, but one has to work at it to keep it that way.
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Old 06-07-2013, 07:15 PM
 
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See, myself and two neighbors have been shot at/stray bullets in their own house or yard at different times by so called 'hunters' a few years back. Now I use the existing laws and my assigned police precinct to prevent this from reoccurring. That's my 'defense' and it works. I don't need to whine about Obama or how things were different back then and especially somewhere else. I also don't need a bigger gun to shoot back at others. Our life is good, the keikis are happy, and everybody's safe. Hawaii can be paradise, but one has to work at it to keep it that way.

Citizens are supposed to use the Police, and the Police and Prosecutors use the Laws. Its called "due process".

It is sad that you have had such a bad experience.

I used to live near a University Campus by one of their recreational fields. We would, from time to time, find an arrow stuck vertically in our yard, and one, in the roof. We didn't call anyone, we didn't go overboard, we just accepted it. It wasn't very often, so we just took it as a risk of living.

An excessive quest for "safety" will take all the meaning out of life, and it appears from the overzealouness of your posts, that you might be headed in that direction.

I hope there are no reoccurances of stray bullets etc.

BTW, nobody whined, well at least not about Obama.
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Old 06-07-2013, 07:32 PM
 
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KaraBenNemsi, maybe you should dig a basement and live down in it to protect you from the risks of living.

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Old 06-07-2013, 07:44 PM
 
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KaraBenNemsi, maybe you should dig a basement and live down in it to protect from the risks of living.
Do they have basements in HI?
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Old 06-08-2013, 02:59 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the Kona coffee fields
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...An excessive quest for "safety" will take all the meaning out of life, and it appears from the overzealouness of your posts, that you might be headed in that direction.

I hope there are no reoccurances of stray bullets etc.

BTW, nobody whined, well at least not about Obama.
Well, I referred to the quote about him below your screen name. Which could also be interpreted as a political 'overzealousness'.

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Old 06-08-2013, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Volcano
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See, myself and two neighbors have been shot at/stray bullets in their own house or yard at different times by so called 'hunters' a few years back. Now I use the existing laws and my assigned police precinct to prevent this from reoccurring. That's my 'defense' and it works
I sincerely hate to hear that someone has put you at risk in the past, and I'm in complete agreement with using existing laws appropriately against irresponsible people like that. I just wanted to clarify that merely holding a gun or showing a gun in a truck rack or even shooting in a safe direction in a permitted area is not "terroristic threatening." As a matter of fact, in reviewing the Hunting Regulations, I was reminded that while actively hunting, a hunter can openly carry a handgun, as long as it is in plain sight or in an obvious protective holster, something not generally allowed in public in Hawai'i.

But to give you some additional ammunition (heh) the regs also say that hunting is legal only between 1/2 hour before sunrise to 1/2 hour after sunset, and night time hunting is completely prohibited. Also hunting is prohibited within 50 yards of a public highway.

Good luck!
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Old 06-08-2013, 03:59 PM
 
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Well, I referred to the quote about him below your screen name. Which could also be interpreted as a political 'overzealousness'.
Not by a rational person.
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Old 06-08-2013, 04:05 PM
 
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I sincerely hate to hear that someone has put you at risk in the past, and I'm in complete agreement with using existing laws appropriately against irresponsible people like that. I just wanted to clarify that merely holding a gun or showing a gun in a truck rack or even shooting in a safe direction in a permitted area is not "terroristic threatening." As a matter of fact, in reviewing the Hunting Regulations, I was reminded that while actively hunting, a hunter can openly carry a handgun, as long as it is in plain sight or in an obvious protective holster, something not generally allowed in public in Hawai'i.

But to give you some additional ammunition (heh) the regs also say that hunting is legal only between 1/2 hour before sunrise to 1/2 hour after sunset, and night time hunting is completely prohibited. Also hunting is prohibited within 50 yards of a public highway.

Good luck!
Is pest eradication by firearm considered "hunting"? If it is, they should make an exemption for feral hogs, danger to house, home and life, that they are. Hell, they shoot them from Helicopters in Texas and Australia (or, perhaps, NZ)
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Old 02-26-2014, 12:20 AM
 
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That guy has been doing pig removals for years. He actually "relocates" the pigs to a couple of charitable groups and they process the pig for meat which they give to folks who need it. his company has a contract with a major golf course near Kona and has "removed" over 1000 pigs over the years from that course alone.
Can i get the contact info about this guy from you? if you have. as we just move to big island, hilo side, and in our yard, there is a hog den there, the other day, we saw a cub came out. in about one or two months, they will grow up, and by then it will be much harder to caught or relocated them I guess. especially for us, just moving here! Thanks a lot!
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