Can I afford to move to the Big Island??

[HiloDiver]

Originally Posted by Dreaming of Hawaii

OpenD, I sure wish I could give you more rep points!

Me too, I sure tried!

[marcuskona]

Originally Posted by OpenD

Originally Posted by OpenD
Source? The Federal Government sets the eligibility requirements, and the program is not based on ethnic heritage or where you're from.

yes the federal government does, and we all knw there is no corruption in Hawaii right? hence the box statement.



Tossing an insult does not cover the fact that you have presented no evidence at all to support your assertion.

Here is factual information about eligibility requirements to participate in the program in Hawai'i. A mainlander and a native Hawaiian with identical qualifications would be treated identically. To do otherwise would be a federal crime.
Department of Human Services Nutrition Program Facts -- SNAP — Department of Human Services




Thanks, that clears up where your misunderstanding came from. That's just a ranking of the total number of welfare recipients by state, and since the population of Hawai'i is so small, the number of recipients is naturally small too. When you compare RATE of welfare cases, however, you get a different picture... Hawai'i is neither at the high nor low end compared to other states, but is actually about in the middle, as I stated previously.

you are speaking per capita, I said rankings (by state) which I provided. now the ball is in your court. source?




Facts don't offend me, but misstating facts does.
Facts don't offend me, but being deliberately insulting does.
Facts don't offend me, but hijacking a thread to drive an agenda does.
Facts don't offend me, but trollish behavior from brand new posters does.

As I said elsewhere, I suggest you wag more, bark less.

I don't bark or wag I am not a dog, thank you.

edit* just found some interesting stats: http://www.ipl.org/div/stateknow/popchart.html

[OpenD]

Originally Posted by OpenD
Source? The Federal Government sets the eligibility requirements, and the program is not based on ethnic heritage or where you're from.

Originally Posted by marcuskona

yes the federal government does, and we all knw there is no corruption in Hawaii right? hence the box statement.

Again, your lack of supporting evidence for your claim just underlines the emptiness of your assertion that "it's easy to get food stamps in Hawaii if your a mainlander and that's not a joke." Repeating a fictitious statement 3 times doesn't make it any more true than it was the first time.

Originally Posted by marcuskona

you are speaking per capita, I said rankings (by state) which I provided. now the ball is in your court. source?

You said "also FYI Hawaii is ranked 41 of 50 for welfare states; most people here work," but the first statement neither proves the second statement nor your case. (Not to mention that many people receiving Food Stamp Benefits are actually "working poor.") Raw numbers are meaningless in this kind of discussion, because they will always show the smallest states having the smallest number of participants. In comparing states of different sizes and populations, meaningful comparisons are in per capita rates, or percentages.

Here are just a few of many references I have found for the RATE of Food Stamp use in Hawai'i vs the rest of the country.

First, perhaps easiest to understand, an interactive map dated February 2011, color coded by category of usage. Notice that Hawai'i is in the second lowest category. Hover over individual states to pop up their stats... notice that dark colored glob in the middle. That's Louisiana at 18%, Mississippi at 20.6%, Tennessee at 19.9%, Alabama at 18%, etc. and then compare those to Hawai'i at 11.6% of the population using food stamps. Food Stamp Use, by State

Only a couple of months older, this Wall Street Journal article and chart from November 2010 shows, if you sort by Percent of Population on Food Stamps, and then rank, Hawai'i shows at #14 from the bottom, and at 11.2%, well below the national average of 13.6%.
In U.S., 14% Rely on Food Stamps - Real Time Economics - WSJ

Still, that's higher than than it's been in the past, double what it was in 2006. This Star Advertiser article from November 2011 suggest several reasons for that, including the lingering effects of the recession. Despite having the highest allowable income cap in the country, because of the high cost of living in the state, many eligible Hawaiians were simply not taking advantage of the benefits available to them. So the State Department of Human Services conducted an outreach program that increased participation to 12.1%.
Isle food stamp use rises - Hawaii Business - Honolulu Star-Advertiser

Originally Posted by marcuskona

I don't bark or wag I am not a dog, thank you.

No, but I'm quite certain you know what I mean. Be nice. Treat others here with aloha. Stick to the facts.