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Old 01-27-2015, 11:42 PM
 
Location: Florida Suncoast
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See what did i say earlier, alot of people from Hawaii live in Oregon.
I'm curious about why people move from Hawaii to Oregon. When you talk to the people that left Hawaii, what were the reasons for leaving Hawaii? Are the people usually of working age, rather than retired? They can't be migrating to Oregon for the weather! I've never visited Portland or Oregon in general in the winter, only in summers. Its nice in the summers. But the summers in Oregon are short, just like Minnesota. However, I understand that the winters in Oregon are long, gloomy almost all the time, drizzling day after day, the wind whips the mist around so an umbrella is useless. The cold clammy weather makes you feel cold down to your bones. It seems pretty depressing to me, maybe worse than Minnesota, except you don't get the extreme cold and not as much snow.

So, what usually causes someone from Hawaii to move to Oregon?
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Old 01-28-2015, 02:45 AM
 
Location: HOVE, Hi
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@Gk
Looked... unfortunately, $21 a day per person (current non-resident totals) is simply not an option... I probably wouldnt pay it if I was rolling in dough... and my buddy is inherently a penny-pincher, who also aint rolling.
Btw
From a reaction I got a while ago, while simply passing thru Costco's lot after closing, I feel I must clarify: I am NOT crashing at or on Costco property.
I suppose it could be that they just have troubles w such things, but I got the nagging feeling that the employee who warned me off the property as she was leaving, had read these posts. Then again, I could just be a ninny...

RC
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Old 01-28-2015, 03:13 AM
 
Location: not sure, but there's a hell of a lot of water around here!
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I suppose it could be that they just have troubles w such things, but I got the nagging feeling that the employee who warned me off the property as she was leaving, had read these posts. Then again, I could just be a ninny...

RC
A little over one hundred thousandth of one percent of the population of Hawaii actually follow anything on this website, so odds are you're a ninny
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Old 01-28-2015, 06:21 AM
 
Location: mainland but born oahu
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I'm curious about why people move from Hawaii to Oregon. When you talk to the people that left Hawaii, what were the reasons for leaving Hawaii? Are the people usually of working age, rather than retired? They can't be migrating to Oregon for the weather! I've never visited Portland or Oregon in general in the winter, only in summers. Its nice in the summers. But the summers in Oregon are short, just like Minnesota. However, I understand that the winters in Oregon are long, gloomy almost all the time, drizzling day after day, the wind whips the mist around so an umbrella is useless. The cold clammy weather makes you feel cold down to your bones. It seems pretty depressing to me, maybe worse than Minnesota, except you don't get the extreme cold and not as much snow.

So, what usually causes someone from Hawaii to move to Oregon?
Its the standard, the cost of living outweighed the benefits of living in Oahu for example. The changes, traffic and mainlandifing of Oahu for

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Old 01-28-2015, 06:30 AM
 
Location: mainland but born oahu
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example didn't add up to the costs. Others wanted to live life again and not be slaves to the cost of living, some i know goto Portland State University and U of O. Portland for the west coast is also a slower pace in life and for some portland is liberal and has a good sized former Hawaii population. But i agree about the Oregon weather, thou lately the last few years our weather has been kinda freaky.
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Old 01-28-2015, 06:47 AM
 
Location: mainland but born oahu
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A little over one hundred thousandth of one percent of the population of Hawaii actually follow anything on this website, so odds are you're a ninny
I don't know about ninny but agree about the A little over one hundred thousandth of one percent of the population of Hawaii actually follow anything on this website Comment. Yes jing here is our resident local ol' ***. His roots go even further in history then mine. Hell the guy even knew George Helm! Anyway didn't mean to embarrass you Jung. Just thought i would tell it like it is. Further in my opinion, Jung is also an example of what to do when moving to Hawaii and in my opinion also is an example that being local is a mindset and not a race thing. We need to see more of his knowledge or old and new Hawaii on here. And make this Forum truely represent what Hawaii is. Aloha Jung.
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Old 01-28-2015, 04:52 PM
 
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Aloha and welcome: am I missing something, 21 dollars a day to stay (camping) is to much ?? you flew to the island and unable to even pay that much.
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Old 01-29-2015, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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They can't be migrating to Oregon for the weather! I've never visited Portland or Oregon in general in the winter, only in summers. Its nice in the summers. But the summers in Oregon are short, just like Minnesota. However, I understand that the winters in Oregon are long, gloomy almost all the time, drizzling day after day, the wind whips the mist around so an umbrella is useless. The cold clammy weather makes you feel cold down to your bones. It seems pretty depressing to me, maybe worse than Minnesota, except you don't get the extreme cold and not as much snow.
I've lived in the Portland area for 7 years now, DavePhan. It's hard to accurately characterize the climate here. People always throw around this stereotype that it's always raining. Like constantly. And we all know that's BS. I truly believe that one's characterization of local weather patterns is directly related to their level of optimism. So, the grinches will say the winters are long, miserable, wet messes. I'm no optimist, but I'm not a grinch either. Pull up a 12-month weather history for Portland and most would be surprised. It's really darn nice here.

First off, the summers aren't that short. It actually varies year to year. Last year, it was hot in May all the way through September. (and boy, was it a hot summer of 2014) Some years, the drizzle eases off in April and doesn't start up again until November. Some years, like this one, we see the sun more days in January than not, and it's windy out. (Generally, it is NOT windy here. I'm originally from the Midwest-- huge difference.) Keep in mind, Seattle is the city that has far more overcast days than Portland. People tend to mix up our climates for some reason.

I wouldn't call Portland's weather "rainy," either. It's "drizzly" and "DAMP." Our annual rainfall is only 8 inches more than Minneapolis. We just get our rain in opposite seasons. And ours doesn't dump on us all at once. And anyone who lives here can tell you that our summers are so dry, it's just brown, brown, brown - everywhere but for the evergreens. However, our summer skies are a brilliant blue with gorgeous sun. Portland is no where near the top of the list on U.S. Cities' annual precipitation.

Regarding temperatures-- incredibly mild here in the winter. Most days are in the 50's. But if it's sprinkling out, it doesn't feel so good. In the summer, it's generally in the upper 70's to low 80's, although last summer we had a record for 90+ degree days.

Oregon is the 5th State I've lived in as an adult. I grew up in Kansas City, where we had snow, ice, and weren't strangers to 20- to 40-below wind chills. Believe me, I'll take Portland winters over Midwestern ones any day! Portland "Gloomy?" Sometimes, yes. Right now, I'm staring out my window at sunny blue skies in January. Not bad. It's been like that a lot lately. What I think is really gloomy were the years I spent growing up in the Midwest, where the winters were truly gray- because everything was coated with a layer of salt from the icy roads. There were no evergreens. Everything was gray. And it was flat and ugly. When I go to visit family, I'm completely depressed by the landscape, even in summer. They build beautiful buildings and shopping districts to try to hide the ugly. (Yes, I'm a grinch about the Midwest.) I've also lived in the southeast and on the east coast. Oregon is gorgeous. Favorite place I've ever lived, not to mention my favorite weather. Of course, I've never lived in Hawaii!

Having said all of this, I'll admit that my husband and I usually escape part of Portland's damp winter to spend 4 weeks in Hawaii because, hey, at least the rain is WARM!

Cheers!
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Old 01-29-2015, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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I'm curious about why people move from Hawaii to Oregon. When you talk to the people that left Hawaii, what were the reasons for leaving Hawaii? Are the people usually of working age, rather than retired? They can't be migrating to Oregon for the weather! I've never visited Portland or Oregon in general in the winter, only in summers. Its nice in the summers. But the summers in Oregon are short, just like Minnesota. However, I understand that the winters in Oregon are long, gloomy almost all the time, drizzling day after day, the wind whips the mist around so an umbrella is useless. The cold clammy weather makes you feel cold down to your bones. It seems pretty depressing to me, maybe worse than Minnesota, except you don't get the extreme cold and not as much snow.
I've lived in the Portland area for 7 years now, DavePhan. It's hard to accurately characterize the climate here. People always throw around this stereotype that it's always raining. Like constantly. And we all know that's BS. I truly believe that one's characterization of local weather patterns is directly related to their level of optimism. So, the grinches will say the winters are long, miserable, wet messes. I'm no optimist, but I'm not a grinch either. Pull up a 12-month weather history for Portland and most would be surprised. It's really darn nice here.

First off, the summers aren't that short. It actually varies year to year. Last year, it was hot in May all the way through September. (and boy, was it a hot summer of 2014) Some years, the drizzle eases off in April and doesn't start up again until November. Some years, like this one, we see the sun more days in January than not, and it's windy out. (Generally, it is NOT windy here. I'm originally from the Midwest-- huge difference.) Keep in mind, Seattle is the city that has far more overcast days than Portland. People tend to mix up our climates for some reason.

I wouldn't call Portland's weather "rainy," either. It's "drizzly" and "DAMP." Our annual rainfall is only 8 inches more than Minneapolis. We just get our rain in opposite seasons. And ours doesn't dump on us all at once. And anyone who lives here can tell you that our summers are so dry, it's just brown, brown, brown - everywhere but for the evergreens. However, our summer skies are a brilliant blue with gorgeous sun. Portland is no where near the top of the list on U.S. Cities' annual precipitation.

Regarding temperatures-- incredibly mild here in the winter. Most days are in the 50's. But if it's sprinkling out, it doesn't feel so good. In the summer, it's generally in the upper 70's to low 80's, although last summer we had a record for 90+ degree days.

Oregon is the 5th State I've lived in as an adult. I grew up in Kansas City, where we had snow, ice, and weren't strangers to 20- to 40-below wind chills. Believe me, I'll take Portland winters over Midwestern ones any day! Portland "Gloomy?" Sometimes, yes. Right now, I'm staring out my window at sunny blue skies in January. Not bad. It's been like that a lot lately. What I think is really gloomy were the years I spent growing up in the Midwest, where the winters were truly gray- because everything was coated with a layer of salt from the icy roads. There were no evergreens. Everything was gray. And it was flat and ugly. When I go to visit family, I'm completely depressed by the landscape, even in summer. They build beautiful buildings and shopping districts to try to hide the ugly. (Yes, I'm a grinch about the Midwest.) I've also lived in the southeast and on the east coast.

Oregon is gorgeous. It's the one place I've ever lived where I'm not dealing with summer humidity. And I can go the entire summer without a single mosquito bite. Favorite place I've ever lived, not to mention my favorite weather. Of course, I've never lived in Hawaii!

Having said all of this, I'll admit that my husband and I usually escape part of Portland's damp winter to spend 4 weeks in Hawaii because, hey, at least the rain is WARM!

Cheers!
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Old 01-29-2015, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Oh, and we don't have the humidity of landlocked states. And mosquitoes? I go all summer without a single bite. . .
Let's see if I can thing of more wonderful things about Oregon. . .

We have waterfalls.
Mountains.
Skiing.
WINE. GOOD wine. Not that Midwestern sugary stuff.
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