U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Hawaii > Big Island
Big Island The Island of Hawaii
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Old 06-19-2008, 12:34 PM
2,779 posts, read 7,284,405 times
Reputation: 745


Anyone know anything about them? How about the high schools? Academics? Any gang problems in schools?
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

Old 06-21-2008, 09:51 PM
5 posts, read 19,781 times
Reputation: 10
I have the same questions. Was told to look into charter schools. Not sure what those are but I guess I'll find out in 10 days....

--maggie in LA
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 06-21-2008, 10:02 PM
7,913 posts, read 866,303 times
Reputation: 808
the school system in hawaii is horrible, the public schools in hilo and keaau are keaau middle, hilo middle, and waiakea school. ive heard that when you walk around at keaau school you can smell pot and crack being smoked.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 06-21-2008, 11:46 PM
Location: Kūkiʻo, HI & Manhattan Beach, CA
2,624 posts, read 6,964,147 times
Reputation: 2413
Originally Posted by norcalmom101 View Post
Anyone know anything about them? How about the high schools? Academics? Any gang problems in schools?
Every year or so, Honolulu Magazine does a series of articles about the schools in Hawai'i.

Here's a link...
Schools - Hawaii

Hope this helps,

Jonah K
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 06-24-2008, 10:19 PM
2,779 posts, read 7,284,405 times
Reputation: 745
Awesome link. Thank you!
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-16-2008, 10:23 PM
3 posts, read 11,082 times
Reputation: 10
Please understand that public education on the east side of the Big Island is horrendous.

With that in mind, Kea'au Middle School is alright. From a kid's point of view, as long as you don't eye people out, talk trash, or act like you're superior to the local reality, you won't have many problems. The local kids are generally pretty friendly to newcomers, and things only turn bad for someone fresh if he/she either puts things down or screws with people. Many local kids come from messed-up homes, and acting tough is a big deal for a lot of them. However, there are very few around, and the tough act/ensuing fights are not very sophisticated. It's not uncommon for kids in their late teens and early twenties to show up at a school and call out a fifteen/sixteen year old for some stupid reason. Disputes can escalate very quickly via the deep anger that permeates many peoples' mentalities, and families do occassionally get involved in arguments, and sometimes, even the actual fights. But, the school staff is pretty tight-knit (I heard they didn't lose any teachers this summer), and most of them care about the kids. Administration is weak, but that's just how it is almost everywhere around here. The education is not quality because, primarily, most families don't stress it. Some kids are there just to socialize and eat. It's easy to blame the teachers, and some really do have no idea how to control a room, but when you have parents who don't want to deal with school-related problems and who stick up for their kids regardless of the situation, it's very difficult to build an atmosphere conducive to learning. Socially, I think Kea'au Middle is a good experience - especially for kids from well-to-do environments. Academically, though, they probably won't learn very much. Most teachers have to teach at low levels because of the local reality, and the higher-end kids (including students with a decent education from elsewhere) fall through.

I can't speak for Waiakea Middle School, but I did teach at Waiakea High for a year. If the middle school is anything like the high school, I don't recommend it at all. I was warned by a local guy from Kea'au before I transferred to Waiakea that while the kids wouldn't be as radical, they would be more stuck-up. He was right. Overall, Kea'au kids appreciate relationships with people who genuinely care about their well-being and who hold reasonable behavior expectations for them. However, Waiakea is more middle class, and a lot of those kids are spoiled and think they are hot They don't care how you treat them - they're going to do whatever they want because they're cool, man! This is a generalization, of course, as there are many well-behaved kids at Waiakea. A few times, I even saw some of the "good" ones trying to explain to their friends why they were being such , but it was totally over their heads. Punks with real problems because of tough family situations are one thing. Spoiled brats with no reason for acting like jerks other than their being ignorant is something that bores me to no end. Also, much of the faculty at that school seemed to be living in some kind of delusional fantasy world. Waiakea used to be a very good school with a strong principal over a decade ago. However, it has obviously deteriorated since then, and the teachers don't want to deal with or even acknowledge what it's like now. A new principal arrived halfway through the year, and while he seemed like a good guy, I could tell he didn't know what he was getting himself into. By the end of the year, he looked like he wanted out. Stay away...

I don't know much about Hilo schools. I can tell you this, though: if you move north of Hilo, whatever you do, do not send your kid(s) to Laupahoehoe High and El. That place is like Gonzo's version of baby-sitting with lame rhetoricians acting as administrators and a school district that ignores the "school's" problems and just keeps turning that wheel, baby.

Good luck, and don't expect much!

Last edited by 7th generation; 11-02-2008 at 03:40 PM.. Reason: Please do not swear in your posts. Thanks.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-20-2008, 12:38 AM
Location: Moku Nui, Hawaii
11,033 posts, read 22,592,193 times
Reputation: 10803
Laupahoehoe school may have a new acting principal this upcoming year, but I'm not certain.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-01-2008, 10:09 PM
3 posts, read 11,082 times
Reputation: 10
Yes, Laupahoehoe does have yet another temporary principal...after going through three last year. The old official guy now works for district with the title of something along the lines of "School Reform Specialist." How cherry it must be to get suspended with pay for nine months while your bosses conduct a virtually non-existent investigation into some pretty serious allegations made against you and THEN slip into some cushy job with a name like that.

This happened, of course, after the school suspended some middle-schoolers for a grand total of two days each after they got busted with weed AND alcohol on campus. One official explanation for this hefty punishment was "we don't want these kids forming gangs." ???

Earlier this school year, some students vandalized the institution at a fairly high level. Everyone (remember, it's a small community... word spreads fast) knew who was responsible fairly quickly, but officially, the culprits remained unidentified for some time. After initially lying about it for weeks, the vandals finally fessed up and received a grand total of eight days suspension each - and did not return anything that they stole (or so I heard). Plus, the high school English teacher is still suspended since just before school started because of sexually-imaged poetry he had linked from his school website.

But, Edison will, no doubt, clean all of this up. Here's to mainland private corporations steering public schools in the appropriate direction for "our" kids to achieve 21st-century success! - for a small fee, of course

Yes, absurdity is having itself a marvelous time in the second Hamakua gulch.

Last edited by dynamic flux; 11-01-2008 at 10:45 PM..
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-01-2008, 10:38 PM
3 posts, read 11,082 times
Reputation: 10
Meanwhile, Kea'au High School has not shyed away from the front page. Weeks after one memorable day which saw multiple fights during lunch time including a 10-on-4 mob that sent the outnumbered combatants to the hospital, a hit-list was discovered by a teacher and later leaked to the press. This blown-out-of-proportion event eventually led to the principal being placed on administrative leave while providing the DOE another opportunity to practice its stellar investigative abilities.

Students continue to go to class when they please and walk around campus during classtime mostly unmolested. In its tenth year, the school has not yet found it prudent to offer any honors math courses, and it remains optional for teachers throughout all subject areas to teach. But, I hear the lunch-line situation is one of the most efficient ones on the island. Ask the kids for more info.

On the flip side, KHS is one of the better schools around IMO. Considering some of the junk many of these kids are going through and what the school used to be like, it's functioning pretty well and just seems like the local media has an infatuation with ripping on Puna. If you send your child to this institution, he/she will learn many social lessons which one probably cannot learn from a middle/upper class environment or, heaven forbid, from TV. Academically, there are opportunities to learn, but not at a very high level. Socially speaking, however, if your child can make it through without losing it, he/she will be prepared to handle much of what the "the world" will throw at 'em later on...
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.

Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply

Loading data...
Based on 2000-2020 data
Loading data...

Hide US histogram

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Hawaii > Big Island

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2023, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top