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Old 07-02-2014, 04:38 PM
 
Location: North Western NJ
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just because a listing SAYS its big enough for a certain bird does NOT mean it actually is i wouldn't put anything larger than a medium sized conure in that cage...(bluecrown at largest) and certainly NOT a cockatoo, not unless you want a plucking screaming mentally imbalanced destructive bored mess of a bird...)

for a pair of budgies i prefer 30x18x18 breeder cages, but ive got a 24x16x16 that is my ABSOLUTE SMALLEST size for a pair of budgies (its better for a single)...and for each pair id DOUBLE it...
so for 2 minimum 24x16x16, for 4, 24 x 16 x 30 (tall)

and theres no such thing as "TOO BIG" as long as the bar spacing is the right size.

this is what i use for my English budgie pairs
http://www.amazon.com/Prevue-Product...ds=flight+cage
its perfect (30x18x18) plenty of space for toys, and for each to have their own space..but id not put more than 2 in there...

a good rule to follow is a bird should have double the length of its wing span...MINIMUM per bird, so a budgie has a wing span of between 9 and 14" (depending on the lines, with americans being closer to 9-12 and enlgish being on the larger side) so DOUBLE that length, so minimum cage length and dept should be 18-24" MINIMUM...18x18x18 would be an absolute MINIMUM for a SINGLE SMALL budgie, with BIGGER being preferred. bigger is ALWAYS better in the bird world!
for a pair ideally it should be doubled...but a 30x18x18 works nicely for a pair...

http://www.amazon.com/Prevue-Product...ds=flight+cage
works great for a pair (though if you can go even bigger (especially taller) even better

and for 4
Amazon.com : Large Wrought Iron Flight Canary Parakeet Cockatiel Lovebird Finch Cage With Removable Stand #15 Black Bird Cage, 32-Inch by 19-Inch by 64-Inch : Parrot Cages : Pet Supplies
is PERFECT!!!

as a side note, probably not a good plan to ask "how big is big enough" then shoot every answer down like were all clueless...you ask a question you get an answer...most form some VERY educated very experienced bird folks...(ive worked with large parrots in zoological settings and owned birds all my life and i know dontaskwhy is also VERY bird knowledgable)

add to that a simple google search and most budgie sites (not sites designed to sell cages but sites designed to educate people about the bird itself) state a minimum of 18x18 for a single bird with much larger for multiples.

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Old 07-02-2014, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Ocala, FL
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Good advice, Foxy. My earlier comment was merely said in jest.
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Old 07-02-2014, 04:49 PM
 
Location: North Western NJ
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DAW, jest or not, if I had the space for a 6'x4' my budgies would have one! lol. there such active playful little birds that they use every inch of their cage space even 30" long is sometimes not enough for them when they get realy rowdy lol.
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Old 07-02-2014, 08:17 PM
 
Location: In The South
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This is 24 X 22 and it can be used for a Cockatoo. 25 X 25 for ONE budgie?

Bird Cage Large Play Top Parrot Finch Cage Macaw Cockatoo Pet Supplies Black | eBay
Just saying what I read. I don't have birds at the moment, but have had them in the past. The cage you linked is 22 x 24 x 37.5, so if you were to average it out it's not much different than a square 25 x 25, I wouldn't think.

Anyway, listen to Foxy. She is exceedingly knowledgeable about these things.
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Old 07-02-2014, 08:48 PM
 
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I am thinking for two American budgies, 14 X 18 X 22.
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Old 07-02-2014, 08:54 PM
 
Location: In The South
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I am thinking for two American budgies, 14 X 18 X 22.
You mean like regular parakeets, the ones they sell in Petsmart or Petco. Cool.
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Old 07-02-2014, 09:31 PM
 
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You mean like regular parakeets, the ones they sell in Petsmart or Petco. Cool.

Yeah, I am cool like that!
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Old 07-02-2014, 10:22 PM
 
Location: North Western NJ
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2 am-budgies in a 14 x 18 x 22 is going to be VERY cramped once you add toys...

but I know its a waste of finger power trying to explain MINIMUM recommended cage sizes again...lol
shame...
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Old 07-02-2014, 10:25 PM
 
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2 am-budgies in a 14 x 18 x 22 is going to be VERY cramped once you add toys.....
Just limit it to two small toys then. Done!
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Old 07-03-2014, 11:18 AM
 
Location: North Western NJ
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LMAO, so your answer to NOT providing them with a properly sized enclosure is to ALSO not provide them with apropriate mental and physical stimulation too...Good plan...good plan...*rolls eyes*
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