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Old 03-18-2015, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Birmingham
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Getting a new screen name doesn't change the same tired message either.
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Old 03-18-2015, 01:14 PM
 
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If only there were some way to add up all your posts under all the names you've had. Seems like a tiring process to come back after being banned to post the same crap over and over again.
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Old 03-18-2015, 01:17 PM
 
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Tourian I'm at the railroad park , Moderator cut: snip . It feels like no other city in ALABAMA downtown.VIBRANT AN THRIVING

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Old 03-18-2015, 01:21 PM
 
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Aye, it sure is. Parkside is shaping up to be a very important district in downtown.
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Old 03-19-2015, 06:50 AM
 
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My guess on your seeing two different figures: The first is the actual 2010 census numbers, the second is the latest estimate, 2013 estimates are the latest city estimates available from the US Census. From comparing to other cities around the country, the estimates are inflated somewhat. Whether they are trying to correct undercounting in the census, I don't know. The city of Atlanta only gained 4k between the 2000 and 2010 counts, the latest estimates have it gaining almost 30k in the three years since. Yes, there is a lot of development and gentrifying in the city of Atlanta, but I still think that it is inflated.
In the years leading up to the 2010 census, estimates had Atlanta's population well north of 500K. I don't know what methodology they used to estimate, but I'm sure many locals were shocked (and so was I) when the population went up by only 3-4K from 2000 numbers.
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Old 03-19-2015, 06:57 AM
 
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That would be great, but I think with JeffCo still being weak post BK, and still paying some debts off - it wouldn't be advantageous for Birmingham to take on all those debts and the responsibility of the infrastructure of the county. And then, of course, I'm sure that Hoover, Vestavia, Homewood, Irondale, M-B would resist any sort of inclusion or participation.
When Nashville consolidated with Davidson County, some communities, like Goodlettsville and Forest Hills were able to keep their autonomy. Some places around Indianapolis and Louisville were able to do the same thing when those cities consolidated with their respective counties.
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Old 03-19-2015, 07:42 AM
 
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Tourian it seems the speed has picked up well people are driving alot faster around BHAM
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Old 03-24-2015, 12:09 AM
 
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In the years leading up to the 2010 census, estimates had Atlanta's population well north of 500K. I don't know what methodology they used to estimate, but I'm sure many locals were shocked (and so was I) when the population went up by only 3-4K from 2000 numbers.
Exactly. That's why I don't put a lot of stock in these estimates. A lot of people moved into gentrifying areas like Candler Park, East Atlanta, Kirkwood, Grant Park, etc and a lot of high rise condos went up in midtown and Buckhead. But a lot of high density housing projects were demolished and poorer areas of the city started emptying out. There was a dramatic up turn in the white population and in overall income, so there was a lot of movement. But you had a lot of singles and DINKs moving in and a lot of larger poorer families moving to the burbs. A recipe for over counting and not a large net gain.
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Old 03-24-2015, 03:04 PM
 
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Exactly. That's why I don't put a lot of stock in these estimates. A lot of people moved into gentrifying areas like Candler Park, East Atlanta, Kirkwood, Grant Park, etc and a lot of high rise condos went up in midtown and Buckhead. But a lot of high density housing projects were demolished and poorer areas of the city started emptying out. There was a dramatic up turn in the white population and in overall income, so there was a lot of movement. But you had a lot of singles and DINKs moving in and a lot of larger poorer families moving to the burbs. A recipe for over counting and not a large net gain.

I wouldn't say poorer areas emptied out as I lived in some of those areas and media tried to make it seem like a ghost town on the west and southside of the city compared to East Atlanta. the projects had a affect on the population between 2000 and 2010 but the majority was closed down before 2005 with Thomasville heights edgewood bankhead courts allen temple bowen homes was still up after(they was the smallest of the AHA). Yes the whites came back in numbers to the city between the 2005-2011 and the percentage of blacks went from 73% to 55%. a lot of blacks are coming back instead of going to the burbs because of gentrification and too keep some of the neighborhoods black. the east Atlanta neighborhoods has always been more diversified than the other zones especially 1,3 and 4 so that's where the uptick in whites mainly went too
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Old 03-24-2015, 03:12 PM
 
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My guess on your seeing two different figures: The first is the actual 2010 census numbers, the second is the latest estimate, 2013 estimates are the latest city estimates available from the US Census. From comparing to other cities around the country, the estimates are inflated somewhat. Whether they are trying to correct undercounting in the census, I don't know. The city of Atlanta...
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Exactly. That's why I don't put a lot of stock in these estimates. A lot of people moved into gentrifying areas like Candler Park, East Atlanta, Kirkwood, Grant Park, etc and...
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I wouldn't say poorer areas emptied out as I lived in some of those areas and media tried to make it seem like a ghost town on the west and southside of the city compared to East Atlanta...
Gosh, if only there was a place on this website to talk about Atlanta...

Right now the big push is still to build residential space downtown. Bayer talked about changing their focus with the Pizitz from commercial to residential, so I hope this demand keeps going so that we can show more then just a few hundred people added by 2020, like say - 5-10,000k. And not just downtown. Hopefully by then Norwood, Fountain Heights, and dare I say East Thomas and Titusville will be seeing newly renovated homes and/or new construction.
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