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Old 04-25-2018, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, Birmingham, Charlotte, and Raleigh
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Tourists spent $1.9 billion in Birmingham area in 2017, study shows | AL.com

It appears in one calendar year alone, the Greater Birmingham area has seen a 5% increase in convention and tourism from 2016 to 2017. The number of travelers make up 50% occupants of the hotel rooms in Jefferson County are from out-of-state, so the demand is growing pretty brisk pace for more hotel rooms in the region. There are at least 1,000 hotel rooms proposed to come online the next 18 months, so a couple thousand more hotel rooms proposed would not be out of the question. Tourism is a growing sector of the regional economy.
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Old 04-25-2018, 06:12 PM
 
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In a word - Jobs
I agree. My family and I left... Only due to work. We prefer it to our current location in the Northeast.
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Old 04-25-2018, 09:24 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, Birmingham, Charlotte, and Raleigh
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I agree. My family and I left... Only due to work. We prefer it to our current location in the Northeast.
The jobs front may in fact turn around in the near future in the Greater Birmingham area. The renewed and very aggressive interest in economic development in the region will yield more higher paying jobs. You and your family might have a chance to return to a thriving city with diverse economy.
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Old 04-26-2018, 07:15 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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I am doing some research comparing metropolitan areas in the USA. I currently live in the metropolitan Seattle area of Washington. Population in the Seattle area, centered in the state's most populous county, King County, is growing very rapidly. According to U.S. Census enumerations and population estimates, the population of King County has grown from 1.74 million in 2000 to 2.15 million in 2016, adding over 400,000 people over a 16-year period (over 25,000 per year) for an overall increase of nearly 24%. King County actually added more people in the six-year period from 2010 to 2016 than in the full decade from 2000 to 2010.

In contrast, Jefferson County, AL, where Birmingham is located, experienced no growth or a slight population decline between 2000 and 2016. Its estimated population in 2016 and Census enumerated population in 2010 was lower in both years than Birmingham's 2000 population of 662,047. The entire population of Jefferson County is less than the City of Seattle, which now exceeds 700,000.

Therefore, why has the population of the greater Birmingham stagnated so much? Why does it appear that more people are moving out of the Birmingham area than moving into the area? Why does it appear that people considering relocation are avoiding Jefferson County, AL, while many people are willingly moving to King County, WA, from both from all other parts of the USA and many countries abroad?

What could the Birmingham area do to improve it economy and growth rate so that it would be more like Seattle and the King County area, where the population has been growing at a very rapid rate?

It would appear to me, based on this data, that the Birmingham area must not be a very desirable region to live. Is there truth to this assumption, or am I mistaken?
Keep in mind that Birmingham had 4 times the number of murders as Seattle and Seattle has 3.5 times more people. I realize people say Birmingham has areas where crime rate is low and there are areas outside of Birmingham that have low crime but Birmingham itself has crime at a level so far beyond anything in Washington state....I think that's a huge factor to go along with the jobs machine in Seattle.
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Old 04-26-2018, 08:20 AM
 
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Sorry if it offends anyone, but to answer the question, you have to address the elephant in the room: it's because Birmingham is one of those cities/metros that pretty much no one who's not from the Birmingham area WANTS to live in. Once people in the Birmingham area answer the "whys," then they can finally come up with solutions to change that.
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Old 04-26-2018, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, Birmingham, Charlotte, and Raleigh
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Sorry if it offends anyone, but to answer the question, you have to address the elephant in the room: it's because Birmingham is one of those cities/metros that pretty much no one who's not from the Birmingham area WANTS to live in. Once people in the Birmingham area answer the "whys," then they can finally come up with solutions to change that.
That statement is not true, but we are all entitled to our own opinions.
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Old 04-26-2018, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, Birmingham, Charlotte, and Raleigh
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Keep in mind that Birmingham had 4 times the number of murders as Seattle and Seattle has 3.5 times more people. I realize people say Birmingham has areas where crime rate is low and there are areas outside of Birmingham that have low crime but Birmingham itself has crime at a level so far beyond anything in Washington state....I think that's a huge factor to go along with the jobs machine in Seattle.
Racial demographics play a huge role in the economics of the two regions. One also cannot ignore that.

https://demographics.virginia.edu/DotMap/index.html
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Old 04-26-2018, 09:31 AM
 
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Here is an example of a job:

Systems Analyst - GIS with Jefferson County Health Department

This job has been posted since Jan. 29, 2018, and is open until filled, yet the organization hasn't filled the job yet.
It is a multiple job posting, HR forgot to take it down, background checks did not come back clean, it is a bench posting ... If you are a serious researcher - call HR.
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Old 04-26-2018, 09:35 AM
 
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Sorry if it offends anyone, but to answer the question, you have to address the elephant in the room: it's because Birmingham is one of those cities/metros that pretty much no one who's not from the Birmingham area WANTS to live in. Once people in the Birmingham area answer the "whys," then they can finally come up with solutions to change that.
Birmingham proper does not have the capacity to house those employed there. We lived nine years in Shelby County (Greystone) and worked in Birmingham thus paying taxes. Over 50% of neighbors and coworkers had no ties to Alabama.
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Old 04-26-2018, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Birmingham, AL
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Sorry if it offends anyone, but to answer the question, you have to address the elephant in the room: it's because Birmingham is one of those cities/metros that pretty much no one who's not from the Birmingham area WANTS to live in. Once people in the Birmingham area answer the "whys," then they can finally come up with solutions to change that.
As an outsider, what do you perceive those reasons to be?
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