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Old 12-20-2019, 06:28 PM
 
Location: North of Birmingham, AL
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lol? 2054 was the date set some number of years ago and there have been delays since then. So don't expect it finished before 2054.
LOL, so I moved to Birmingham at age 21 and the northern beltline was a thing being discussed. On this timeline, I'll be 88 when it's completed!
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Old 12-23-2019, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Madison, AL
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https://www.al.com/news/birmingham/2...ing-bills.html

And it's getting back started, hopefully for good. Maybe ALDOT can entice whoever is constructing it with a finish early bonus incentive and complete this thing under 10 years
You guys seriously want $5 billion dumped into this one road? Imagine the good that could be done in your metro area with that money instead of this project.

https://abc3340.com/archive/seven-of...irmingham-area

I rarely agree with Archibald, but this time he has it right.

In the meantime, you have 1.3 or so miles of dirt that has been washing away and growing weeds for 3 years. Enjoy!
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Old 12-23-2019, 10:19 PM
 
Location: 35203
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You guys seriously want $5 billion dumped into this one road? Imagine the good that could be done in your metro area with that money instead of this project.

https://abc3340.com/archive/seven-of...irmingham-area

I rarely agree with Archibald, but this time he has it right.

In the meantime, you have 1.3 or so miles of dirt that has been washing away and growing weeds for 3 years. Enjoy!
This is federal dollars allocated just for that specific project. This is all ALDOT and the state of alabama. Birmingham has no say so about where those dollars should go towards.

But will enjoy it, though. Thanks
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Old 12-24-2019, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Madison, AL
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This is federal dollars allocated just for that specific project. This is all ALDOT and the state of alabama. Birmingham has no say so about where those dollars should go towards.
This is $30 million in one year after several years of receiving nothing for a $5 billion project. In general ALDOT will have to fund it from its pool of federal highway money.

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Where will the money come from?
Because Congress the Appalachian Development (APD) Highway System a priority, any projects on the BNB that are authorized by September 30, 2050 are eligible for 100% Federal funding, with no requirement for matching funds from the State. The first phase of the Beltline was constructed using the remaining designated APD funds. Remaining APD projects will be funded from ALDOT's overall funding. Specific project funding is determined based upon available funding and needs assessment, among other considerations.
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But will enjoy it, though. Thanks
Drummond and USX appreciate your support!
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Old 12-24-2019, 10:25 AM
 
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Keep on-topic please - skip the city wars and impending descent into personal. Thanks
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Old 08-27-2021, 02:51 PM
 
Location: 35203
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Hopefully the House get on board and pass this. Going from Bessemer to Gardendale via 422 could open up more opportunities in north(west) Jefferson County. The county is looking at building a third industrial park. Plenty of land out that way.
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Old 08-27-2021, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Birmingham, AL
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maybe i could be convinced otherwise, but at the moment i still can't get on board with this project.

the cost is a big part of it. $5 billion could go towards so many more beneficial road/transportation projects.
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Old 08-27-2021, 03:38 PM
 
Location: 35203
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maybe i could be convinced otherwise, but at the moment i still can't get on board with this project.

the cost is a big part of it. $5 billion could go towards so many more beneficial road/transportation projects.
Oh yeah, no doubt. They dropped the ball when they didn't complete the loop back in the 80's when they only did 459. But this is ALDOT and Alabama. They ain't about to invest money they received from the government and give it to cities/counties to invest in other transportations options. ALDOT only want to build bridges and highways. It's always a lose it/use it deal to begin with. Majority of the time a specific earmark contract. If the Feds give them money for 422, that's what they will have to use it on.
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Old 08-27-2021, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Birmingham, U.S.A.
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maybe i could be convinced otherwise, but at the moment i still can't get on board with this project.

the cost is a big part of it. $5 billion could go towards so many more beneficial road/transportation projects.
It's peanuts really. Just think about what they spend on defense. Think about what was wasted on 20 years in Afghanistan. The US spends hundreds of billions upon billions on defense. A lot of that is pure waste, pork, pet projects. None of that gets questioned hard enough. Not by any politician that wants to line his or her pockets and stay in office anyway. Just siphon a little of that off and everybody's favorite road projects gets done.
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Old 08-27-2021, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Birmingham, AL
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oh, i agree with you there... don't get me started on our defense budget haha.
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