Birmingham's Atlantic Station? (difference)

[bfmx1]

To the OP.. An Atlantic Station would really be awesome in Southtown or anywhere around Birmingham really. Unfortunately, Birmingham doesn't have the depth needed to support something like that.

The Summit meets the needs of the metro and other attempts at what I'll call mid-tier shopping/restaurants/grocery areas have failed. There's not enough demand in BHM to support something like this.

Too many stores have not survived in BHM market (outside of the Summit) like zGallerie, Whole Foods in Hoover, Newks, Brookwood Mall, while they generally do well in many other markets. Just not enough people making enough money at the end of the day.

WOULD IT BE COOL? YESSSS it would be super awesome.. And it could be a potential one day if/when Bham proper continues to thrive.

But right now, no way.

[magiccityluv]

Originally Posted by bfmx1

I've always pictured Time's Square being there. Then I remember, oh yeah, we're talking about Birmingham.

Funny how nobody has even tried to dismantle this OP it's so ridiculous.

He clearly writes for BhamNow.

Dude. What's wrong with Birmingham's boards. I clearly don't write for Birmingham Now. I was trying to join in a discussion with a message board I usually just read, my bad. I Hope you good folk don't treat all infrequently posters this way. It's no way to build a board community. The sad thing is most of Birmingham boards are like this.

[magiccityluv]

Originally Posted by bfmx1

To the OP.. An Atlantic Station would really be awesome in Southtown or anywhere around Birmingham really. Unfortunately, Birmingham doesn't have the depth needed to support something like that.

The Summit meets the needs of the metro and other attempts at what I'll call mid-tier shopping/restaurants/grocery areas have failed. There's not enough demand in BHM to support something like this.

Too many stores have not survived in BHM market (outside of the Summit) like zGallerie, Whole Foods in Hoover, Newks, Brookwood Mall, while they generally do well in many other markets. Just not enough people making enough money at the end of the day.

WOULD IT BE COOL? YESSSS it would be super awesome.. And it could be a potential one day if/when Bham proper continues to thrive.

But right now, no way.

I was just looking at the location and how it would change the city's skyline. The southside already has a very impressive skyline, but a couple towers @ Southtown would be a game changer? Kinda of related. What about a circle city mall type of development southwest of UAB? I lived in IND for while, and it was a go to mall for some things.

[bfmx1]

Originally Posted by magiccityluv

I was just looking at the location and how it would change the city's skyline. The southside already has a very impressive skyline, but a couple towers @ Southtown would be a game changer? Kinda of related. What about a circle city mall type of development southwest of UAB? I lived in IND for while, and it was a go to mall for some things.

I get it. I do agree. It would be awesome. I think part of the problem is your original post was very vague and left it wide open for us to interpret what you were trying to do/say.

But yes, and AS would be awesome... But given the stores that have closed and the areas that have flopped or couldn't thrive, it's a long shot.

The Summit sucks the retail life out of the rest of the city unfortunately. It's a top tier mall in the whole Southeast, but leaves little for other nearby areas to tap into.

[bhamguy]

Originally Posted by magiccityluv

Dude. What's wrong with Birmingham's boards. I clearly don't write for Birmingham Now. I was trying to join in a discussion with a message board I usually just read, my bad. I Hope you good folk don't treat all infrequently posters this way. It's no way to build a board community. The sad thing is most of Birmingham boards are like this.

I am one who used to post often enough, but gave it up. There are so many people who are so negative, dropping by, stinking up the Birmingham board. It does seem like people hate that Birmingham is coming back.

I agree with bfmx1, a little. The Summit seems to hurt a lot of other places, who could possibly attract certain retailers, from keeping those better tenants. I believe the reason Bayer was trying to buy and develop the land across from The Summit, had something to do with this. I know that highly sought after retailers would do well in Birmingham, if the were at The Summit or across the street from The Summit. I don’t even think Lane Parke would have the draw, to replace what Brookwood wants to be.

With that said, a Southtown development could do well with the amount of people living, working, and visiting the area, due to Bayer being apart of the redevelopment of Southtown.

[JesseRohr]

Originally Posted by bfmx1

Ha, if you'll notice, I only take exception with their articles related to the economy and job market where they tout the city as one of the best job markets in the country. Or when they make it sound like people are flocking to the city, etc.

It's so annoying that people believe the propaganda without thinking.

Other than that, I'm totally good with a site that is designed to highlight the great things going on/happening because there is a lot of stuff going on that is very noteworthy.

The OP is one such kind of post. Thinking that Birmingham could actually support anything like Atlantic Station is a farce.

You and I are 100% aligned on this one.

[JesseRohr]

Originally Posted by magiccityluv

I was just looking at the location and how it would change the city's skyline. The southside already has a very impressive skyline, but a couple towers @ Southtown would be a game changer? Kinda of related. What about a circle city mall type of development southwest of UAB? I lived in IND for while, and it was a go to mall for some things.

IND is a metro area about twice the size of BHM with a pretty high population density nearest the core. Quite the inverse of BHM today.

Possible if the metro continues with its urban infill plans in a few decades, or unless we land the next Apple/Google/Amazon HQ here in the city.

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[anthony_c55]

Atlantic Station is not something to emulate.

[Atlanta Scientist]

Originally Posted by anthony_c55

Atlantic Station is not something to emulate.

I don't know. It has gotten better over the years. They are building new office space,apartment, and hotels currently. Atlantic Station lead invest in the westside of Atlanta which has become a beast in terms of development.