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Old 06-23-2012, 11:43 PM
 
Location: Houston
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I thought at first it would feature something like a pair of small rear doors like the Mazda RX-8, something I could (sort of) deal with. Well it doesn't - it's just a conventional sedan, albeit quite nice looking....but it still doesn't have the special vibe the actual 6 series coupes usually exhibited.

So, to me this sedan looks to be simply the product of their marketing department to capitalize on the 6 series coupe's history. Kinda like slapping the Chips Ahoy name on all those varieties that include all kinds of weird stuff the tasty original never included, so they aren't actually Chips Ahoy cookies (O.K. not the closest analogy but whatever ).

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Old 06-24-2012, 12:41 AM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Audi A7, CLS550, Passat CC, Sonata, Fusion... it joins a laundry list of sedans with coupe-like styling sacrificing a bit of practicality for a bit of style. Personally, I like them, especially the A7 which gives up nothing and gains some cargo space all while looking a bit more interesting than your run of the mill A6 which is understated even for me. I guess since the 6 series was never anything special to me I don't see anything wrong with taking its name. It's not like it's a model with any venerable history.
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Old 06-24-2012, 07:01 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX USA
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I havnt seen the new 6 series(and I am too lazy to google it), but I would imagine its along the same lines of the Benz CLS; that they call a 4 door coupe.
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Old 06-24-2012, 11:52 AM
 
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I thought at first it would feature something like a pair of small rear doors like the Mazda RX-8, something I could (sort of) deal with. Well it doesn't - it's just a conventional sedan, albeit quite nice looking....but it still doesn't have the special vibe the actual 6 series coupes usually exhibited.

So, to me this sedan looks to be simply the product of their marketing department to capitalize on the 6 series coupe's history. Kinda like slapping the Chips Ahoy name on all those varieties that include all kinds of weird stuff the tasty original never included, so they aren't actually Chips Ahoy cookies (O.K. not the closest analogy but whatever ).

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Have you looked at the direct competition?

The 4-door coupe segment are not dominated by RX-8 type vehicles, they fall into a different market, the 4-door coupes are large, often luxurious sedans with a more coupe like window/door line, but nevertheless full size 4 door sedans.

What they do is put more emphasis on the styling, sometimes sacrificing features like interior space and head space.

I would say that it hits the market spot on, and is an exciting new entry into a market Mercedes had almost by itself for a long time.
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Old 06-24-2012, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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I thought at first it would feature something like a pair of small rear doors like the Mazda RX-8, something I could (sort of) deal with. Well it doesn't - it's just a conventional sedan, albeit quite nice looking....but it still doesn't have the special vibe the actual 6 series coupes usually exhibited.

So, to me this sedan looks to be simply the product of their marketing department to capitalize on the 6 series coupe's history. Kinda like slapping the Chips Ahoy name on all those varieties that include all kinds of weird stuff the tasty original never included, so they aren't actually Chips Ahoy cookies (O.K. not the closest analogy but whatever ).

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Actually I'd say it's more like BMW finally getting in on the "luxury sedan with coupe lines" game Mercedes started a decade ago with the CLS. And they're not the only ones -- see Audi A7 and Jaguar XJ. Basically the 6 Gran Coupe is just a 7-series with sleeker lines.
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Old 06-25-2012, 07:32 AM
 
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I think BMW dropped the ball here. Why turn a fabulous coupe into a 4 door when every other car in their lineup offers a sedan? They should have kept the 6 series a coupe. People who bought a 6 series bought it because it WAS a coupe.
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Old 06-25-2012, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Pikesville, MD
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Actually, the coupe designation comes due to having less-than-sedan rear interior volumes, not door count. Remember, there used to be 2 door sedans as well as 2 door coupes, and interior volume is what determined the difference, not door count.

A great visual example is this from 1932:

Coupe:



Sedan:



Or moving up to 1963...

Coupe:



Sedan:



This is now going the other way with 4 door cars, that have coupe rear volumes. Like the 6er Grand Coupe or the Passat CC.
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Old 06-25-2012, 07:55 AM
 
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Actually, the coupe designation comes due to having less-than-sedan rear interior volumes, not door count. Remember, there used to be 2 door sedans as well as 2 door coupes, and interior volume is what determined the difference, not door count.

A great visual example is this from 1932:

Coupe:



Sedan:



Or moving up to 1963...

Coupe:



Sedan:



This is now going the other way with 4 door cars, that have coupe rear volumes. Like the 6er Grand Coupe or the Passat CC.
I just dont see why anyone who is in the market for a BMW sedan would choose the smaller interior of the gran coupe over a true sedan such as the 5 series.
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Old 06-25-2012, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Pikesville, MD
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I just dont see why anyone who is in the market for a BMW sedan would choose the smaller interior of the gran coupe over a true sedan such as the 5 series.
Because the difference is actually small (and only in the rear seat area) and the Gran Coupe looks quite a bit better. In my opinion it's what the 5 series should have been from the start.

I love the nose of this thing:

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog....-coupe-628.jpg

http://uncrate.com/p/2011/12/bmw-6-s...n-coupe-xl.jpg

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Old 06-25-2012, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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I think BMW dropped the ball here. Why turn a fabulous coupe into a 4 door when every other car in their lineup offers a sedan? They should have kept the 6 series a coupe. People who bought a 6 series bought it because it WAS a coupe.
And they can still buy the coupe if they want.
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