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Old 04-17-2008, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Boise, Idaho by way of Iowa City, Iowa
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Here in Iowa we FINALLY passed a smoking ban in bars and restaurants(now if only we could get it for public sidewalks as well). It goes into law starting July 1st, 2008 which means I will have only about a month to enjoy it since I am moving to Boise August 1st

Any chance that a ban will appear in Idaho/Boise anytime soon?

I hate the smell of cigarette smoke so much that I would rather live next door to a sewage treatment plant on a hot day.
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Old 04-17-2008, 01:40 PM
 
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I think so, at least in Boise.

Maybe not for a few years, however.
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Old 04-17-2008, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Boise, ID
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Most restaurants in Boise are already nonsmoking only. I don't know about bars, but I think they mostly still allow it, including in their restaurant portions if they are primarily a bar. I've heard that all the bowling alleys have banned it as well. Pretty sure that all government buildings ban smoking too. The airport is non-smoking other than in the "smoking rooms", which isn't ideal, but it does help.

The only time I ever smell smoke is if I'm driving near a smoker and the smell drifts over to be sucked in by my car's intake valve (or whatever its called), or if I run into a really heavy smoker (I don't let them smoke around me, but the smell can be pretty bad, even just coming off their clothes).

I agree about the smell. I call it "sickly sweet" and it makes me ill and gives me a migraine.
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Old 04-18-2008, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Boise
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Smoking is still allowed in bowling alleys because Gov. Otter vetoed the bill that would have banned it.

As for me, even though I don't smoke I see the bans as a gross violation of private property rights, but that is for another thread.
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Old 04-19-2008, 12:42 AM
 
Location: Boise, Idaho by way of Iowa City, Iowa
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Smoking is still allowed in bowling alleys because Gov. Otter vetoed the bill that would have banned it.

As for me, even though I don't smoke I see the bans as a gross violation of private property rights, but that is for another thread.
If you ask me as soon as you open "your" property up to the public it becomes a public establishment. I use the term your lightly b/c of eminent domain, the gov't can do whatever it wants with "your" property if it desires so. Eminent domain is the true cause for concern not a simple smoking ban that in the end is best for everyone...even the "owners".

Just my opinion.
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Old 04-19-2008, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Boise
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It's just one of those people feel strongly about and never concede.

Fortunately for you, you are on the winning side of the debate.

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Last edited by jufrbo; 04-19-2008 at 07:29 PM..
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Old 04-19-2008, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Boise
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I never understood this whole smoking ban thing I mean, I think that it shouldn't be allowed where children are present such as bowling alleys and restaurants, but a night club or a bar? I mean come on? I don't particularly care for smoking.. but if the owners want to allow it.. and lose the revenues due to people who don't go there because of the smoke.. then that is their position.. and that should be allowed. It just seems like a group of people are wanting to tell businesses how to conduct their business. Sure smoking is bad and all, but so is drinking every night of the week, where's the laws restricting that? I just don't understand that part of the argument. Restaurants and such.. sure.. kids don't need to be in that setting. But if you as an adult don't like smoke.. don't go there..
its like going to a gay bar and not being gay.. if you don't like gay people don't go there... what should we make laws to restrict people from being gay and going out because a certain group of people don't like to go out and see them "being gay".
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Old 05-08-2008, 05:50 PM
 
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I completely understand and agree with smoking bans because the smoke drifts around; drinking every day is bad for you as well but it doesn't damage the liver of the people around the drinker; second-hand smoke does damage the lungs of those around smokers. And it stinks up the clothes of non-smokers, and irritates the eyes, etc. As for not going to a bar if you don't like the smoke, how about the flip side? The bar is non-smoking and if you want to smoke don't go there. I smoked for years and one of the best things I have or will ever do was to stop.
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Old 05-08-2008, 10:43 PM
 
Location: Slightly west of Downtown Boise
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Smoking is a disgusting habit which should be stamped out of society. The healthcare money saved by eliminating tobacco-related cancers from the nation would be mind-boggling. Smoking and booze have nothing in common. Drunk driving is obviously a big problem with drinking, and there may be some forthcoming "solutions" to that...hint hint:breath tubes...It's not the Gov't that would mandate those..insurance companies and banks would.

Smoking should be banned from all public places immediately. If you want to smoke, move to Europe and buy a beret.
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Old 05-09-2008, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Boise, Idaho
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Smoking is a disgusting habit which should be stamped out of society. The healthcare money saved by eliminating tobacco-related cancers from the nation would be mind-boggling. Smoking and booze have nothing in common. Drunk driving is obviously a big problem with drinking, and there may be some forthcoming "solutions" to that...hint hint:breath tubes...It's not the Gov't that would mandate those..insurance companies and banks would.

Smoking should be banned from all public places immediately. If you want to smoke, move to Europe and buy a beret.
I agree with you 100%. I am up for a total ban on smoking anywhere in the U.S. Disgusting habit.
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