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Old 10-26-2012, 08:05 AM
 
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I won't say that she's a nutbar. She has a mental illness and I feel for her. But, seriously, she's a nutbar. According to the article, she also lives just a few hours from me.
Uh, technically speaking... you DID say she's a "nutbar."

I also discovered the brother wrote a book. I think it would be interesting to read the works of all three, and see what the full picture might disclose. Probably that she is a nutbar, but then -- are we not all to someone in our lives?
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Old 10-26-2012, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Montreal -> CT -> MA -> Montreal -> Ottawa
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Uh, technically speaking... you DID say she's a "nutbar."

I also discovered the brother wrote a book. I think it would be interesting to read the works of all three, and see what the full picture might disclose. Probably that she is a nutbar, but then -- are we not all to someone in our lives?
Oh, I don't use the term loosely! Jeremy's a clinical psychologist! HAHAHAHA!!

No, really, I'm not making fun of mental illness. I shouldn't... and I couldn't... and I wouldn't. It's a VERY real problem. I just think that, in some ways, his mother was hiding behind the label of "mental illness" so that she could just do whatever floated her boat. I may be TOTALLY off base there, and I read the book so long ago (when it first came out), but it just feels that her "excuse" is convenient and contrived. Again, just a brief thought that I had.

As for his brother, he's interesting. His name is John Robison and he wrote Look Me in the Eye, which Jeremy is coincidentally currently reading, about his life with Asperger's.
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Old 10-26-2012, 09:02 AM
 
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I'm not making fun of mental illness. I shouldn't... and I couldn't... and I wouldn't. It's a VERY real problem. I just think that, in some ways, his mother was hiding behind the label of "mental illness" so that she could just do whatever floated her boat. I may be TOTALLY off base there, and I read the book so long ago (when it first came out), but it just feels that her "excuse" is convenient and contrived. Again, just a brief thought that I had.

As for his brother, he's interesting. His name is John Robison and he wrote Look Me in the Eye, which Jeremy is coincidentally currently reading, about his life with Asperger's.
My very, very DEAR nutbar.... you might be right, you might be crazy (coining a Billy Joel lyric for comic levity, not to be insensitive). I certainly could not make a determination, based on reading a book jacket and an article. Still, it might be telling that she never once said anything derogatory about her son, and did admit that she had much to be in need of forgiveness for herself.

I don't know if I will ever get to reading any of their works, but I've got them in my Goodreads "Want To" list, so if I do I will be sure to come back here. (No surprise there! )

Meanwhile, I have to meter my reading of "The Night Strangers" or I would never get anything done! I can completely relate to each of the characters -- providing ample evidence that I, too, am a nutcase.

At present, about a quarter of the way through, the father is hacking into THAT DOOR in the basement closed with Thirty-Nine carriage bolts, and "hears" cries of anguish (in his head, or real, he cannot be certain after what he's been through).

But for now, I have a dog bed cover to work on, and then a lunch date.

Happy reading, friends!
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Old 10-26-2012, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Montreal -> CT -> MA -> Montreal -> Ottawa
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My very, very DEAR nutbar.... you might be right, you might be crazy (coining a Billy Joel lyric for comic levity, not to be insensitive). I certainly could not make a determination, based on reading a book jacket and an article. Still, it might be telling that she never once said anything derogatory about her son, and did admit that she had much to be in need of forgiveness for herself.

I don't know if I will ever get to reading any of their works, but I've got them in my Goodreads "Want To" list, so if I do I will be sure to come back here. (No surprise there! )

Meanwhile, I have to meter my reading of "The Night Strangers" or I would never get anything done! I can completely relate to each of the characters -- providing ample evidence that I, too, am a nutcase.

At present, about a quarter of the way through, the father is hacking into THAT DOOR in the basement closed with Thirty-Nine carriage bolts, and "hears" cries of anguish (in his head, or real, he cannot be certain after what he's been through).

But for now, I have a dog bed cover to work on, and then a lunch date.

Happy reading, friends!
Bigun is getting a new dog bed... and then he's going out for lunch with you? I know, I know, but you *should* take him with you.
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Old 10-26-2012, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Windham County, VT
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As for his brother, he's interesting. His name is John Robison and he wrote Look Me in the Eye, which Jeremy is coincidentally currently reading, about his life with Asperger's.
I did read (and enjoy) both "Look Me In The Eye"-and the follow-up "Be Different" by John Elder Robison-though that was over a year ago, so I'm not "currently" reading it
Couple excerpts (I took notes) from Robison's "Be Different" (2011):
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pg.151:"The wariness I acquired as a kid followed me into adulthood. It was a strain, but when I think of some of the places I went and some of the people I hung out with, it was probably a blessing that I had it. People saw that I never backed down, so they didn't push me."
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pg.193: "I think it comes down to simplicity, predictability, and logic. The natural world has all those things; people don't.
Thanks to DandJ & LookinForMayberry, for weighing in on Burroughs' earlier work (since I haven't read any of those).
Thought this was insightful, from Burroughs' "This is How...":
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pg.118: “Understanding what happened in the past is rarely truly possible. Because true understanding must incorporate context. Not merely what we experienced, but why. And the why requires knowing the motivations of the other people involved. Without the perspective of this context, our understanding will always be biased; it will be from a single perspective: ours. And therefore, not necessarily accurate or true.”
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Old 10-26-2012, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Canada
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I finished Schwarzenegger's book. He is a very, very boring person. He has no internal life. Very boring book. I flipped/skipped through a lot of pages.

Well, time to get some work done. It is one of those days where I really didn't want to get out of bed.
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Old 10-26-2012, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Montreal -> CT -> MA -> Montreal -> Ottawa
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Ex Libris arrived. I just read the preface. I'm in love. I won't be home tomorrow and although I know that I could plow through this short book (~ 160 pages) tonight, I don't want to race through it. I want to savor it and hug it and love it for as long as I can.

Thank you, Pinetreelover, for leading me to it.
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Old 10-26-2012, 12:29 PM
 
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I want to savor it and hug it and love it for as long as I can.
This comment totally brought to mind a cartoon (maybe an old Bugs Bunny cartoon) where the guy says something about hugging and loving something. OK - not real helpful, but I have a fuzzy picture of the cartoon in my mind.
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Old 10-26-2012, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Montreal -> CT -> MA -> Montreal -> Ottawa
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This comment totally brought to mind a cartoon (maybe an old Bugs Bunny cartoon) where the guy says something about hugging and loving something. OK - not real helpful, but I have a fuzzy picture of the cartoon in my mind.
You made me think of the Snoopy thing: "Love is like a warm blanket."
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Old 10-26-2012, 03:57 PM
 
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