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Old 04-03-2012, 08:04 AM
 
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Old 04-03-2012, 11:06 AM
 
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He's 10? What reading level is he?
While Ender's Game is a novel about a younger child, it was indeed written for adults with that sort of viewpoint in many parts of the story. I think my son started the series when he was 12 and in middle school, and over the years I've introduced many customers to Ender at that age.
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Old 04-03-2012, 01:26 PM
 
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It really depends on the 5th grader.
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Old 04-04-2012, 05:29 AM
 
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He's 10? What reading level is he?
While Ender's Game is a novel about a younger child, it was indeed written for adults with that sort of viewpoint in many parts of the story. I think my son started the series when he was 12 and in middle school, and over the years I've introduced many customers to Ender at that age.
An 11yo girl who is a level Z (fountas-pinelle) I know I spelled that wrong.

She likes edgy, mature books, but I worry that Ender's Game may be too violent. Thanks.
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Old 04-05-2012, 04:26 PM
 
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I don't think for your girl it's age inappropriate. It's been a while since I've read it (a long while) but I don't recall the book itself being violent. It's the truth of violence that's fundamentally disturbing, and if she's edgy and mature for her age she already appreciates this. I think it would launch her on proper questions about humanity and conscience. I'd trust her to run properly with those issues.
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Old 04-06-2012, 06:14 PM
 
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I don't think for your girl it's age inappropriate. It's been a while since I've read it (a long while) but I don't recall the book itself being violent. It's the truth of violence that's fundamentally disturbing, and if she's edgy and mature for her age she already appreciates this. I think it would launch her on proper questions about humanity and conscience. I'd trust her to run properly with those issues.
Thank you for responding I think you give her too much credit. Whenever she reads these edgy mature books I look forward to discussing them, but she's still pretty shallow in her observations or maybe she doesn't want me bugging her. She gets what she reads, but she doesn't want to discuss the books, so it's hard to say what she gets from them. Maybe in a couple of years she will be able to dig deeper.
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Old 04-09-2012, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Yes, I do.

In fact, I didn't LIKE the Ender's Game saga, but if I were younger, I would have loved it. I wish I WOULD have read them when I was a preteen/teenager, and not when I was 27. I would have had more appreciation for it!

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The books are centered around a group of children, and has the mentality of a child- but as the novels develop, so do the characters. Violence wise, it's really no worse than anything she's probably already read or even seen (I'm pretty sure the Twilight saga was just as violent, if not more so).
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Old 04-09-2012, 11:41 AM
 
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Yes, I do.

In fact, I didn't LIKE the Ender's Game saga, but if I were younger, I would have loved it. I wish I WOULD have read them when I was a preteen/teenager, and not when I was 27. I would have had more appreciation for it!

Edited to add:

The books are centered around a group of children, and has the mentality of a child- but as the novels develop, so do the characters. Violence wise, it's really no worse than anything she's probably already read or even seen (I'm pretty sure the Twilight saga was just as violent, if not more so).
I just read it last year and I remember thinking how much I would have loved it when I was a kid - I would totally have related to the bullying etc that goes on between children.

I can't compare the level of violence because I haven't rad the Twilight books. I didn't find the book all that violent - what's most violent isn't stated until the end. I think that if a kid has interest in it, it's totally appropriate.
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Old 04-10-2012, 05:27 PM
 
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Thank you for responding I think you give her too much credit. Whenever she reads these edgy mature books I look forward to discussing them, but she's still pretty shallow in her observations or maybe she doesn't want me bugging her. She gets what she reads, but she doesn't want to discuss the books, so it's hard to say what she gets from them. Maybe in a couple of years she will be able to dig deeper.
I dunno. I think kids that age get things but just haven't developed the vocabulary to express their thoughts, and end up sounding shallow.
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Ender's "game" ends up being real. Ender, a child, was duped into participating in war.
That's not a difficult message in itself to grasp, but it's no more difficult morally than war itself, which an 11-year-old certainly should ponder because it's a present fact. There's nothing to shield this age group from since they already know about it. Better to have them start preparing their minds for quandaries and ramifications because quandaries and ramifications aren't going away either. Gear up those thinking muscles, I say. You're lucky she's interested in reading at all. Half the "battle" already won.
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Old 04-15-2012, 02:00 PM
 
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Yes. I remember it as being overall fairly simple, without sex or much violence.
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