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Old 11-09-2019, 11:16 AM
 
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Old 11-09-2019, 11:28 AM
 
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I'm finished, too, but felt rushed since someone here asked for 3 months. Anyway, ready to discuss when everyone else is.
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Old 11-09-2019, 12:00 PM
 
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Everyone is in but Enduringwone. Once Enduringwone is finished, spoiler mode will be unlocked and we can begin a discussion of the book in full.
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Old 11-23-2019, 11:53 PM
 
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Well, I'm horrible and will foget before too long. So my apologies for jumping the gun here a little.

As I intimated earlier I loved the writing for the start but it took a little bit for me to get into the story. I love 19th century fiction so I don't think it was tat, just theree was definitely a "set up" portion of the book. But I think it worked.

HAVEN'T READ? STOP READING. Sorry I don't know how to do the while "spoiler" thing.

One the scene shifted to St. Louis the story picked up. AsI noted in ,y earlier post I love the fact that this book tries to capture this early 20th century time period, which isn't as common in books as timesbefore or after.

I do find the story interesting in sort of the universal way it looks at relationships.Ralph to me was the most interesting, which is unusual for me because I am usually drawn to the women, Although he himslef is clearly wounded and floated, it seems like we are missing something in the explanation of why he is as accepting/forgiving as he is.

Catherine? I get her....although not expressly written from her perspective, the book really is more or less written from her point of view. While I get her motives getting in to the relationship with Ralph, at acertain point I find her actions a little hargdr to accept/believe but possibly I a, reading my own thoughts to her.

Anyway, more to come but I wanted to say sonething before I got too far from the book. Thanks again for therecommendation!
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Old 11-24-2019, 10:54 AM
 
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I think they used the long description of the cold winter to correlate with the characters' frames of mind at the beginning. As the story picked up and their points of view shifted some, the weather in the background "thawed" along with them.
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Old 11-26-2019, 08:27 AM
 
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I think they used the long description of the cold winter to correlate with the characters' frames of mind at the beginning. As the story picked up and their points of view shifted some, the weather in the background "thawed" along with them.


Now see this ^^^^ I would not have made the correlation between the weather and the charecters . thank you for that . That is awesome .
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Old 11-30-2019, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Sierra Nevadas (California)
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Well, I'm horrible and will foget before too long. So my apologies for jumping the gun here a little.

As I intimated earlier I loved the writing for the start but it took a little bit for me to get into the story. I love 19th century fiction so I don't think it was tat, just theree was definitely a "set up" portion of the book. But I think it worked.

HAVEN'T READ? STOP READING. Sorry I don't know how to do the while "spoiler" thing.

One the scene shifted to St. Louis the story picked up. AsI noted in ,y earlier post I love the fact that this book tries to capture this early 20th century time period, which isn't as common in books as timesbefore or after.

I do find the story interesting in sort of the universal way it looks at relationships.Ralph to me was the most interesting, which is unusual for me because I am usually drawn to the women, Although he himslef is clearly wounded and floated, it seems like we are missing something in the explanation of why he is as accepting/forgiving as he is.

Catherine? I get her....although not expressly written from her perspective, the book really is more or less written from her point of view. While I get her motives getting in to the relationship with Ralph, at acertain point I find her actions a little hargdr to accept/believe but possibly I a, reading my own thoughts to her.

Anyway, more to come but I wanted to say sonething before I got too far from the book. Thanks again for therecommendation!

I think he despised himself for the way he treated his first wife, & that is why he didn't object to the poisoning by Catherine, He certainly became a very forgiving man, maybe too much so, to be realistic.

Great points on the weather, NYC.
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Old 11-30-2019, 07:47 PM
 
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I think he despised himself for the way he treated his first wife, & that is why he didn't object to the poisoning by Catherine, He certainly became a very forgiving man, maybe too much so, to be realistic.

Great points on the weather, NYC.
I thought it was his son that he mistreated and when he knew the truth (from the detectives) about the son and Catherine, he thought the son would never forgive him and she would never love him, or even take up the physical relationship he craved again, so he let things happen because he had no hope or goals. And it was winter, when everyone went crazy. ???
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Old 12-01-2019, 08:08 AM
 
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I thought it was his son that he mistreated and when he knew the truth (from the detectives) about the son and Catherine, he thought the son would never forgive him and she would never love him, or even take up the physical relationship he craved again, so he let things happen because he had no hope or goals. And it was winter, when everyone went crazy. ???
I can't remember exactly, but I do seem to recall, that he told Catherine he felt bad for the way he treated his first wife after she left. Maybe he cut off her finances, I can't remember. His character was sometimes hard to fathom out.



Suggestion/question: Does anyone else feel 3 months is too long? I read the book a while ago & I have forgot much of it. Originally I was going to read the book in December, for the January deadline, but when I saw people were already reading it, & my library had a copy I read it early.
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Old 12-01-2019, 11:36 AM
 
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I can't remember exactly, but I do seem to recall, that he told Catherine he felt bad for the way he treated his first wife after she left. Maybe he cut off her finances, I can't remember. His character was sometimes hard to fathom out.



Suggestion/question: Does anyone else feel 3 months is too long? I read the book a while ago & I have forgot much of it. Originally I was going to read the book in December, for the January deadline, but when I saw people were already reading it, & my library had a copy I read it early.


Yes, you might be right about the wife, but it's the same answer: that he couldn't put right what he felt he had done wrong.

Originally, I was OK with 3 months, but then there was a push to finish as others had finished and wanted to discuss while they remembered (as we're having some trouble doing even now) so I finished quickly and have been waiting. I hope we can sort this out.
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