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Old 09-24-2015, 08:10 AM
 
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There are two types of people here on this thread-- the pro-urban (of ehich I am one) and the sky is falling suburbanites.
I for one didn't say I was anti-urban, and I've also pointedly criticized "sky is falling suburbanites" on this thread. Sorry, but things aren't as polarized here as you suggest.
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Old 09-24-2015, 08:21 AM
 
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So? You think because a place has a mugging or a shooting every so often it isn't safe?

That's nuts. Under that criteria no place is safe.
I'll ask again: Do you know what the per capita rate is? Or what constitutes high or low rate generally? It would be very easy, for example, to set the bar so high that nothing qualifies as a high rate.
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Old 09-24-2015, 09:12 AM
 
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I'll ask again: Do you know what the per capita rate is? Or what constitutes high or low rate generally? It would be very easy, for example, to set the bar so high that nothing qualifies as a high rate.

Per capita rate for where? High and low are relative. Boston is pretty low (New Orleans, Detroit, etc are 5x times the rate of murder/homicide per capita, for example). Cambridge is really low. The FBI publishes the stats. They're free for looking up. There are other tools for looking at neighborhoods within communities. Google is your friend. Go ahead and look.
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Old 09-24-2015, 10:59 AM
 
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Per capita rate for where? High and low are relative. Boston is pretty low (New Orleans, Detroit, etc are 5x times the rate of murder/homicide per capita, for example). Cambridge is really low. The FBI publishes the stats. They're free for looking up. There are other tools for looking at neighborhoods within communities. Google is your friend. Go ahead and look.
I'm asking because you're the person making the claim that it's "super safe." I brought up the raw data for one month (not for murders/homicides, but for shootings/robberies) in that particular area and expressed concern about it, but you seemingly think this is meaningless. Who knows? Maybe three shootings/stabbings and two muggings in an area in a month are indeed utterly nothing, but it would be good to know how and why.
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Old 09-25-2015, 07:58 AM
 
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I'm asking because you're the person making the claim that it's "super safe." I brought up the raw data for one month (not for murders/homicides, but for shootings/robberies) in that particular area and expressed concern about it, but you seemingly think this is meaningless. Who knows? Maybe three shootings/stabbings and two muggings in an area in a month are indeed utterly nothing, but it would be good to know how and why.

How and why are easy to figure out. Were they random or targeted. Completely different things.

The number or people passing through / living in these areas compared to the paucity of real crime on strangers.

Compare to other urban areas.

Simple enough.
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Old 09-30-2015, 10:01 AM
 
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'And we're back to attacking neighborhoods that were traditionally associated with minority groups . . . which is where these threads about "bad neighborhoods" always seem to end up. Fort Hill is statistically safer than Kendell Square in terms of violent crime. Why would you make the blanket statement that you feel safer in Kendall than Roxbury?'

When will the liberal people of america realize that YES it's typically urban neighborhoods that are made up of mostly minorities that are causing/creating crime? This is not racist, these are facts. Why is this so hard for people to grasp?
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Old 09-30-2015, 07:28 PM
 
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Old 10-01-2015, 08:26 AM
 
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'And we're back to attacking neighborhoods that were traditionally associated with minority groups . . . which is where these threads about "bad neighborhoods" always seem to end up. Fort Hill is statistically safer than Kendell Square in terms of violent crime. Why would you make the blanket statement that you feel safer in Kendall than Roxbury?'

When will the liberal people of america realize that YES it's typically urban neighborhoods that are made up of mostly minorities that are causing/creating crime? This is not racist, these are facts. Why is this so hard for people to grasp?
They'll always point out the nice parts and sweep everything unsavory under the rug. True, Fort Hill is a very nice neighborhood that in fact is safer than Kendall, but there are plenty of other parts of Roxbury that are unsafe, crime-infested ****holes.
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Old 10-01-2015, 08:54 AM
 
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They'll always point out the nice parts and sweep everything unsavory under the rug.

Hardly, but most intelligent people know it isn't skin color that is the cause of the crime, or responsible for the crime. It is socio economic condition. Most people also know that crime stats don't really reflect crime, because their is a differential in enforcement levels, and types of crime pursued, that is often based on skin color, and then also on socio economic status, that greatly skews statistics.

That is why people hate when people harp on skin color or blame people of a certain skin color.

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Old 10-01-2015, 11:12 AM
 
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There are two types of people here on this thread-- the pro-urban (of ehich I am one) and the sky is falling suburbanites.

I've never heard us urban people claim there is NO risk and NO crime. We just don't buy into the hysteria.
Why does every poster have to fit into these buckets?
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