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Old 08-23-2018, 07:59 AM
 
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Are you sure this is a new trend? According to this report, the percentage of Boston’s population between the ages of 18-34 has remained roughly the same since 1980.

Perhaps young people and students these days are more liberal and outspoken than they were in 1980, but that doesn’t mean there’s a whole lot more of them.
The 18-34 demographic is much different now than it was 30 or 40 years (even 20 years) ago. It's much more transient, much wealthier.
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Old 08-23-2018, 08:10 AM
 
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The 18-34 demographic is much different now than it was 30 or 40 years (even 20 years) ago. It's much more transient, much wealthier.


Where are you getting this from? I mean, they have more money, but in real dollars? I'm not sure. Maybe.


It's anecdotal, of course, but in the late 80s and 90s those that were educated seemed to move around plenty for career and education opportunities.

Of course, transience isn't a negative at a young age. It's a good thing to move around and experience other regions and even countries.
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Old 08-23-2018, 08:11 AM
 
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Are you sure this is a new trend? According to this report, the percentage of Boston’s population between the ages of 18-34 has remained roughly the same since 1980.

Perhaps young people and students these days are more liberal and outspoken than they were in 1980, but that doesn’t mean there’s a whole lot more of them.
1980 was when the boomers were in the 18-34 bracket, so there were more of them everywhere.
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Old 08-23-2018, 08:21 AM
 
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Where are you getting this from? I mean, they have more money, but in real dollars? I'm not sure. Maybe.

My own observations, for what it's worth. Going by occupation types, spending habits, it's absolutely increased at the higher end. Whether it's their own money or someone else's it doesn't matter. The working class is pretty much extinct.

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It's anecdotal, of course, but in the late 80s and 90s those that were educated seemed to move around plenty for career and education opportunities.

But they rarely stayed back then. People came to Boston for their education and typically left due to lack of opportunities. There was a huge brain drain and much less to draw people to Boston from outside. Back then most of the people in the city were actually born and raised there, I don't think that's the case anymore.

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Of course, transience isn't a negative at a young age. It's a good thing to move around and experience other regions and even countries.
I was just stating a fact, not giving an opinion one way or the other.
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Old 08-23-2018, 08:36 AM
 
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1980 was when the boomers were in the 18-34 bracket, so there were more of them everywhere.
And 2018 is when the boomers’ children are in the 18-34 range. Assuming baby boomers had 2 kids each on average, then there would roughly be as many in that age range now as there were 40 years ago.
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Old 08-23-2018, 09:29 AM
 
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My own observations, for what it's worth. Going by occupation types, spending habits, it's absolutely increased at the higher end. Whether it's their own money or someone else's it doesn't matter. The working class is pretty much extinct.

But they rarely stayed back then. People came to Boston for their education and typically left due to lack of opportunities. There was a huge brain drain and much less to draw people to Boston from outside. Back then most of the people in the city were actually born and raised there, I don't think that's the case anymore.


I was just stating a fact, not giving an opinion one way or the other.


Any data on this perceived transience? Boston has always, well, in my lifetime, a good job market relatively.


I guess also depends on what you consider working class...
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Old 08-23-2018, 09:53 AM
 
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Any data on this perceived transience? Boston has always, well, in my lifetime, a good job market relatively.


I guess also depends on what you consider working class...
Im not going by data or anything scientific, But I do remember more of a working class culture in Boston. It seems to have swayed more to a white collar atmosphere lately.

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Old 08-23-2018, 10:09 AM
 
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Im not going by data or anything scientific, But I do remember more of a working class culture in Boston. It seems to have swayed more to a white collar atmosphere lately.
Ok, so "blue collar" is "working class" then.

I wasn't sure what was meant by it. Working class seems to be as amorphous as "middle class".


There is probably a higher percentage, by a bit, of white collar work, sure. It think that is true for most of the large urban areas in the country though.
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Old 08-23-2018, 10:14 AM
 
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And 2018 is when the boomers’ children are in the 18-34 range. Assuming baby boomers had 2 kids each on average, then there would roughly be as many in that age range now as there were 40 years ago.
But part of my point is that pre 1980 people had more kids then they do now. Boomers parents had 3-4-5 children families. Now one or two children families are much more common.
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Old 08-23-2018, 10:29 AM
 
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"virtue signaling"


red alert, red alert


LOL
"Virtue signaling" has become a "dogwhistle".
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