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Old 09-20-2018, 10:11 AM
 
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IMHO going out to eat is the most mindless and frivolous activity that people do. I can buy a weeks worth of groceries and cook better than most places around me for the price of one dinner from a hotshot chef du jour. People instragramming photos of meals they paid for also blows my mind. WOW, great accomplishment. You got ripped off or tater tots. Morons.
lol! Agree
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Old 09-20-2018, 12:35 PM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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No the government doesn't "give me". I have my own HOUSE, my own PIECE OF SOCIETY that I rule. That I buy a $700 iPhone and can't make my rent or put anything away is not the government's doing.


The government does give you. It gives you policies, laws, tax codes, and other structures which within we live our lives, from regulatory to infrastructure to a myriad of other arenas.


And we rarely (Actually never) have 100% rule of our property even fully paid off and in unzoned land.


You're living in denial.
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Old 09-20-2018, 12:39 PM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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I'm estimated to save $500 or so a year, yippee. I think the real shocker for many will come in a few months from now when they find out those fewer withholdings in 2018 will come back to bight them when they file.

But it's not a D vs. R thing, our past president was the most reckless to date (this really needs to go to the P&OC forum).


You don't save it, its for a few years for all but the rich (the "cut" expires) and you just kicked the obligation down the road a few years in order to pay for permanent cuts for the super rich and to explode our deficit. You save nothing.
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Old 09-20-2018, 12:52 PM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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Last time I went out to eat was 2 weeks ago to Green Briar in Brighton (no offense to Green Briar meant, it's actually probably one of the cheap-middle priced eateries around). I got chicken BLT ($13) a Fiddlehead IPA ($7) and a Wormtown Be Hoppy ($7) tip was probably $6.50 or so. Total for the night (about 1-1.5 hours): $33.50. That's over $30 more or less completely burned, not really memorable in any way. Just hanging out with my girlfriend and her friend for a bit. On a Tuesday. Yesterday, I bought 3-4 days of groceries for $35.

Some people go out and spend that $30 4 nights a week. Some people more. It's really incredible.


Eh, some people love to eat out, it is their joy. I'm more like you, when I do it, its because its a social expectation and it just feels generally like a waste of money to me. Especially at places like Deep Ellum, or Green Briar, or whatever... that mid tier not an "experience" or something special place.
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Old 09-20-2018, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Camberville
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No the government doesn't "give me". I have my own HOUSE, my own PIECE OF SOCIETY that I rule. That I buy a $700 iPhone and can't make my rent or put anything away is not the government's doing.

That I spent more than $700 a week in medication for cancer with insurance when I was 23 and couldn't make rent or put anything away for is, however, very much the government's doing.


'Murica.
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Old 09-21-2018, 07:30 AM
 
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The government does give you. It gives you policies, laws, tax codes, and other structures which within we live our lives, from regulatory to infrastructure to a myriad of other arenas.


And we rarely (Actually never) have 100% rule of our property even fully paid off and in unzoned land.


You're living in denial.

When I said "HOUSE" I didn't mean that in a literal sense.



Point is, when living in the GREATEST country in the world it's not an option to blame the government (or X president) for your own failures. I somehow managed to save and live within my means on a modest income (now on my 3rd home), through 3 administrations (and rolled with the punches all along).
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Old 09-21-2018, 07:33 AM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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Point is, when living in the GREATEST country in the world it's not an option to blame the government (or X president) for your own failures. I somehow managed to save and live within my means on a modest income (now on my 3rd home), through 3 administrations (and rolled with the punches all along).


When did you leave the U.S.? The U.S. hasn't been ranked the greatest country in a long time.
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Old 09-21-2018, 07:48 AM
 
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That I spent more than $700 a week in medication for cancer with insurance when I was 23 and couldn't make rent or put anything away for is, however, very much the government's doing.


'Murica.

That's bad luck's doing, not the government. I had an illness that the government doesn't believe in, and with insurance ended up paying a good $40k out of pocket over 4 years. Probably pales in comparison to what you spent, but I adjusted. I took advantage of 0% credit card offers. I put off buying new toys. Had minimum phone plan. Cut cable. Very little going out, etc. Was SLIGHTLY older than you. Since my recovery, I've been working my butt off to get back ahead. Still putting things off, driving the same vehicle I paid off when George W was still president. Did all that despite Trump, Obama or whoever else on might place the blame on.
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Old 09-21-2018, 07:49 AM
 
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When did you leave the U.S.? The U.S. hasn't been ranked the greatest country in a long time.

Then why is everyone still trying to come here?
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Old 09-21-2018, 09:15 AM
 
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That's bad luck's doing, not the government. I had an illness that the government doesn't believe in, and with insurance ended up paying a good $40k out of pocket over 4 years. Probably pales in comparison to what you spent, but I adjusted. I took advantage of 0% credit card offers. I put off buying new toys. Had minimum phone plan. Cut cable. Very little going out, etc. Was SLIGHTLY older than you. Since my recovery, I've been working my butt off to get back ahead. Still putting things off, driving the same vehicle I paid off when George W was still president. Did all that despite Trump, Obama or whoever else on might place the blame on.
You really sound like a true patriot. Other countries that in your eyes that are not as great as our #1 red white and blue have figured out that their people have the right to live a free and healthy lives without being held prisoner to for profit insurance and healthcare. This system is indeed the BEST. For all the ones making money off it. You should open your eyes cowboy, the world is bigger than California to Maine.
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