02-15-2019, 10:16 AM
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Agreed. I think the new liquor license laws were designed to encourage more bars/clubs in the outer neighborhoods (it's why Redd's in Rossie closed - they felt that preventing licenses from leaving neighborhoods devalued the licenses).
To be fair... there were many other reasons why he closed.
02-15-2019, 10:45 AM
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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I honestly don't know if moving the closing time back really helps much. I've lived in places, like Chicago, which has a bunch of places that close much later and all it seems to do is move the starting time of partying back, and starting times of sets back for live music.
02-15-2019, 10:58 AM
Location: Providence, RI
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To be fair... there were many other reasons why he closed.
True, but it's one of the biggest reasons he cited. He's got Dragon Pizza in Davis now which is amazing and since that's my neck of the woods, I can't be too upset about the results.
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I honestly don't know if moving the closing time back really helps much. I've lived in places, like Chicago, which has a bunch of places that close much later and all it seems to do is move the starting time of partying back, and starting times of sets back for live music.
Fair enough, Dublin is known as a pretty big nightlife hub and bars close up there 12:30 on weekends (though enforcement of last call is far more relaxed over there). Even London has a 1am last call. But what London does (and maybe Boston can offer) is allow places to apply for individual/special licenses that allow them to stay open and serve much later than that (I believe there are some 24 hour licenses there).
But I still don't see an issue with moving last call later. You stretch the night longer that way and give people options. It's not as if you can't go out in NYC, Chicago, or Montreal and have a good time before midnight. But it's nice to have the option to be out later if you want. The problem with Boston's 2am last call is that most places stop letting people in by 1 (if not earlier), which means you have to be out the door by 11ish to get a few hours at the bar/club before the night's over.
02-15-2019, 12:29 PM
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Honestly, just having bars close AT last call instead of 1/2 hour to an hour early would be an improvement. That's such a Boston thing. "Oh, last call is 2am? Let's stop serving people at 1 and start pushing people out at 1:30. "
I never even realized that was a Boston thing, until I saw how it worked elsewhere. I guess it is an anti-DUI measure
. I don't think extending it another hour will really make a difference though, Boston will still be Boston.
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lrfox
The problem with Boston's 2am last call is that most places stop letting people in by 1 (if not earlier), which means you have to be out the door by 11ish to get a few hours at the bar/club before the night's over.
Always found that especially annoying.
02-15-2019, 12:31 PM
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Plenty of other cities have last call. It's hardly a Boston thing. Happens all over the upper Midwest at least.
02-15-2019, 12:50 PM
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I never even realized that was a Boston thing, until I saw how it worked elsewhere. I guess it is an anti-DUI measure
. I don't think extending it another hour will really make a difference though, Boston will still be Boston.
Always found that especially annoying.
I've always heard the excuse that no bar wants to be THE bar where all the drunk people congregate at the end of the night so the stop letting people in well ahead of last call. Not sure what the truth is there, but it wouldn't surprise me.
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Plenty of other cities have last call. It's hardly a Boston thing. Happens all over the upper Midwest at least.
Absolutely. Plenty of places do last call at, say, 2 and close at 3. But usually I see it advertised that way (not so sure about the Midwest, haven't been many places aside from Chicago and Minneapolis). Boston's weird about it though and it's unpredictable and sometimes frustrating. For example, Hennessy's (not a place I'd go to now, but it is a typical Boston bar in this regard) posts publicly that 2am is closing time and 2am is last call in Boston.
There's nowhere on the website that says "last call 1am, close at 2am ." They can and do stop serving anywhere from 12:30-1:55. They might be kicking people out at 1:30. There's a good chance that if you show up at 12:30 or 1, you may not even be let in. This is the typical Boston experience late at night. If they just post "Last Call at 1:30," it's easier to stomach.
02-15-2019, 12:55 PM
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Absolutely. Plenty of places do last call at, say, 2 and close at 3. Boston's weird about it though and it's unpredictable and sometimes frustrating. For example, Hennessy's (not a place I'd go to now, but it is a typical Boston bar in this regard) posts publicly that 2am is closing time and 2am is last call in Boston.
There's nowhere on the website that says "last call 1am, close at 2am ." They can and do stop serving anywhere from 12:30-1:55. They might be kicking people out at 1:30. There's a good chance that if you show up at 12:30 or 1, you may not even be let in. This is the typical Boston experience late at night. If they just post "Last Call at 1:30," it's easier to stomach.
Fair enough, but most places have a thing called "bar time" where the clock on the wall was a chunk faster than reality (usually 15-20 min), at least that used to be the case. Most of the time I'm out at 1am now its private venues though, so I don't run into it.
02-15-2019, 12:59 PM
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Fair enough, but most places have a thing called "bar time" where the clock on the wall was a chunk faster than reality (usually 15-20 min), at least that used to be the case. Most of the time I'm out at 1am now its private venues though, so I don't run into it.
Yeah, and in fairness, I'm almost never out till last call (even Boston's abbreviated one) anymore.
02-15-2019, 03:00 PM
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The racism label is not true.
From my own experience travelling through some of the Southern states, Boston is nirvana compared to down there.
Boston probably got that from forced bussing. Just think how you would feel if you mortgaged your life savings on a house in a town with good schools then were told 'sorry we're sending your kids to Dorchester" (I'm from Dorchester for perspective)
Some of the things said to me down south were shocking. They must have assumed because I'm white that I think like them. You'd think a Boston guy would take it in stride but I never heard things like that up here.
Lol oh the northeast. A place where they live in a bubble. Not knowing a thing about the south. Only what Hollywood tells them.
The South is full of Latinos who live in the same areas as non Latinos here in Houston we live amogst each other. We are used to it. I'm a latino. I can see the mixing. The northeast never has to deal with minorities ESPECIALLY Latinos. U guys don't have the tolerance.
You might not be racist like they say. But you are def not tolerant. It's a culture shock to yous guys lol
Texas isn't racist. And Texas isn't the deep South.
02-15-2019, 03:07 PM
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Lol oh the northeast. A place where they live in a bubble. Not knowing a thing about the south. Only what Hollywood tells them.
The South is full of Latinos who live in the same areas as non Latinos here in Houston we live amogst each other. We are used to it. I'm a latino. I can see the mixing. The northeast never has to deal with minorities ESPECIALLY Latinos. U guys don't have the tolerance.
You might not be racist like they say. But you are def not tolerant. It's a culture shock to yous guys lol
Texas isn't racist. And Texas isn't the deep South.
There's a significant Hispanic population in several northeast cities.
Hispanic population:
Houston, TX -- 44.8%
Lynn, MA -- 38.0%
Springfield, MA -- 43.2%
Holyoke, MA -- 50.0%
Chelsea, MA -- 65.6%
Lawrence, MA -- 77.1%
Providence, RI -- 41.7%
Central Falls, RI -- 63.8%
Waterbury, CT -- 36.7%
Bridgeport, CT -- 39.2%
New Britain, CT -- 40.7%
Hartford, CT -- 44.0%
Newark, NJ -- 34.4%
Paterson, NJ -- 60.3%
Elizabeth, NJ -- 63.1%
Passaic, NJ -- 72.1%
West New York, NJ -- 78.0%
Perth Amboy, NJ -- 81.7%
Union City, NJ -- 81.8%
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People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)