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I remember a time when Boylston Street had a much more middle class feeling than recently. No Tesla window front, no Mandarin Oriental, no Gucci, and no Trade Joes but there was a Burger King right around either where the Apple Store or the Crate and Barrel is and there was a plain old Star Market fronting the Prudential Center. What I'm trying to say is that places evolve over time and it's too early to cry doom and gloom just yet. Who knows, maybe the area will become more middle class again.
I miss the Ground Round that was in the back of the Pru. We snuck off for a few workday liquid lunches there. Abe & Louies was more fun wizen it was JC Hillarys. IMO, the Mandarin Development was a setback for that end of Boylston. It really darkened the street and made that area feel more like the financial district.
I remember a time when Boylston Street had a much more middle class feeling than recently. No Tesla window front, no Mandarin Oriental, no Gucci, and no Trade Joes but there was a Burger King right around either where the Apple Store or the Crate and Barrel is and there was a plain old Star Market fronting the Prudential Center. What I'm trying to say is that places evolve over time and it's too early to cry doom and gloom just yet. Who knows, maybe the area will become more middle class again.
Again in the past 20 years, rents have doubled (including Inflation) and Liquor licenses cost 500k now. Its impossible to even open a restaurant and NOT sell $18-20 drinls. Boston is turning sterile really fast. The Nightclubs went in the late 80s-90s, and since then everything has taken a slow path to boredom and mediocrity.
Sure we lost some classics but for every Sunset Grill we lost, we gained a Trillium and a Night Shift Lovejoy Wharf etc. very cool places that 20somethings are flocking to en masse. The city influx of the past 20 years also brought a ton of life to the fringe neighborhoods like Somerville, Cambridge, JP.
Sure we lost some classics but for every Sunset Grill we lost, we gained a Trillium and a Night Shift Lovejoy Wharf etc. very cool places that 20somethings are flocking to en masse. The city influx of the past 20 years also brought a ton of life to the fringe neighborhoods like Somerville, Cambridge, JP.
Generally I’d have to agree while central Boston has priced out a lot interesting stuff (id definitely include Cambridge in that) I think there’s definitely more activity not just in JP or Somerville, but certainly more to ‘do’ now in Dorchester Roxbury Roslindale Eastie Chelsea Everett and to a lesser extent Mattapan.
Again in the past 20 years, rents have doubled (including Inflation) and Liquor licenses cost 500k now. Its impossible to even open a restaurant and NOT sell $18-20 drinls. Boston is turning sterile really fast. The Nightclubs went in the late 80s-90s, and since then everything has taken a slow path to boredom and mediocrity.
Agreed. That's why I don't dine in the Back Bay anymore. No more $6.99 all you can eat buffets, no more $1.50 pizza slices, no more burger, fries, and drink for under $5. If I am in the area, I'd either duck in the T and ride off somewhere else for food or bring a homemade bag lunch and eat it at Copley Square's park benches. They even took away the food court at Prudential Center. The only thing spruced up that might stay that way is the Boston Public Library which is a far cry from the smelly, bedraggled, drunkard laden mess that I had to frequent as a high school student back in the 90's. Call me old fashioned if you may but it's better than shelling out a hefty chunk of your income to live an unsustainable lifestyle and pretend your keeping up with the wealthy newcomers who might not even appreciate what the City truly could have offered.
Sure we lost some classics but for every Sunset Grill we lost, we gained a Trillium and a Night Shift Lovejoy Wharf etc. very cool places that 20somethings are flocking to en masse. The city influx of the past 20 years also brought a ton of life to the fringe neighborhoods like Somerville, Cambridge, JP.
Yeah but most of these people who utilize The Trilliums and such, are 26-35 yuppies, usually caucasian. There is a big lack of diversity and classes in Boston's new bars that opened.
And frankly, they are kind of boring and pretty similar. I live the beer garden scene, but there's only so many times I want a $9 beer with the same type of people.
Agreed. That's why I don't dine in the Back Bay anymore. No more $6.99 all you can eat buffets, no more $1.50 pizza slices, no more burger, fries, and drink for under $5. If I am in the area, I'd either duck in the T and ride off somewhere else for food or bring a homemade bag lunch and eat it at Copley Square's park benches. They even took away the food court at Prudential Center. The only thing spruced up that might stay that way is the Boston Public Library which is a far cry from the smelly, bedraggled, drunkard laden mess that I had to frequent as a high school student back in the 90's. Call me old fashioned if you may but it's better than shelling out a hefty chunk of your income to live an unsustainable lifestyle and pretend your keeping up with the wealthy newcomers who might not even appreciate what the City truly could have offered.
Yeah the reputation Boston has outside of Boston, besides being beautiful and awesome and clean.. is it's dull dining and club/bar scene.
Hardly shocked to hear bars closing, being shut down for 5+ months will do that for ya.
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