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Old 03-22-2021, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Johns Island
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"While violent crime is down 30% in Boston, guns remain a persistent problem."

Which is it? Is violent crime down or not?

"Low morale in the wake of that killing and of calls to defund police departments, as well as fears about contracting the coronavirus, all have contributed to many officers taking a hands-off approach to crime, which has only contributed to its proliferation in some areas, particularly major cities"

So cops cannot do their jobs if they're being monitored? Every other job has standards and expectations, yet somehow when applied to police, it results in low morale, anger, and an "I'll show them" attitude.

Finally, are the cops expected to prevent crime? If they "expect a rough summer," what are they doing to mitigate that risk? If they are the so-called experts, what are their plans for dealing with this anticipated "rough summer" so that it doesn't happen?
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Old 03-22-2021, 03:42 PM
 
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"While violent crime is down 30% in Boston, guns remain a persistent problem."

Which is it? Is violent crime down or not?

"Low morale in the wake of that killing and of calls to defund police departments, as well as fears about contracting the coronavirus, all have contributed to many officers taking a hands-off approach to crime, which has only contributed to its proliferation in some areas, particularly major cities"

So cops cannot do their jobs if they're being monitored? Every other job has standards and expectations, yet somehow when applied to police, it results in low morale, anger, and an "I'll show them" attitude.

Finally, are the cops expected to prevent crime? If they "expect a rough summer," what are they doing to mitigate that risk? If they are the so-called experts, what are their plans for dealing with this anticipated "rough summer" so that it doesn't happen?

I do not believe that violent crime is down 30%, fact of the matter is shootings and homicides are up and those numbers are much harder to fudge.



Fluctuating morale and reduced productivity in tandem with lower morale, is nothing unique to the police. Asking any profession to do more with less, while simultaneously villainizing them and not supporting their mission; you can expect bare minimum in return. Especially with this latest and extremely misguided police reform bill which stripped the police of their qualified immunity, one can't really blame them for taking a step back and hesitant to do any proactive policing knowing they can now much more easily be sued for simply doing their job.
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Old 03-22-2021, 03:57 PM
 
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"While violent crime is down 30% in Boston, guns remain a persistent problem."

Which is it? Is violent crime down or not?

"Low morale in the wake of that killing and of calls to defund police departments, as well as fears about contracting the coronavirus, all have contributed to many officers taking a hands-off approach to crime, which has only contributed to its proliferation in some areas, particularly major cities"

So cops cannot do their jobs if they're being monitored? Every other job has standards and expectations, yet somehow when applied to police, it results in low morale, anger, and an "I'll show them" attitude.

Finally, are the cops expected to prevent crime? If they "expect a rough summer," what are they doing to mitigate that risk? If they are the so-called experts, what are their plans for dealing with this anticipated "rough summer" so that it doesn't happen?
You call what's been happening "being monitored"? And you believe it is the responsibility of the police to ensure that everybody behaves? You're quite misguided.

To quote Sir Robert Peel: The police are the public and the public are the police; the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full time attention to duties which are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence.

Until your attitude becomes the minority view, nothing will change.
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Old 03-22-2021, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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So far today:

Person stabbed to the stomach in South End/Back Bay in front of the symphony T stop, person shot in the leg in Mattapan. Shots fired calls for Jamaica Plain and Hyde Park.
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Old 03-22-2021, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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"While violent crime is down 30% in Boston, guns remain a persistent problem."

Which is it? Is violent crime down or not?

"Low morale in the wake of that killing and of calls to defund police departments, as well as fears about contracting the coronavirus, all have contributed to many officers taking a hands-off approach to crime, which has only contributed to its proliferation in some areas, particularly major cities"

So cops cannot do their jobs if they're being monitored? Every other job has standards and expectations, yet somehow when applied to police, it results in low morale, anger, and an "I'll show them" attitude.

Finally, are the cops expected to prevent crime? If they "expect a rough summer," what are they doing to mitigate that risk? If they are the so-called experts, what are their plans for dealing with this anticipated "rough summer" so that it doesn't happen?
Little to no chance violent crime is down a whole 30%. They’ve said that every year since 2008.

Random street crime is probably down-some especially in areas that aren’t named Dorchester Roxbury Mattapan or Hyde Park. But gang violence and their presence is almost undoubtedly up since ~2015. I don’t think most people would dispute that much.

Since 2004 many city funded programs targeting youth have been rolled back due to Republican era cutbacks and a decline in the share of Bostonians that are under 18. A repeal of racial quotas has left the Boston Police Department MUCH whiter and with fewer Boston resident than in 2004. The release of many 90s era criminals also stoked the strengthening of local street gangs.

Youth homicide today in Boston is about 25% of all murders in the city which is high for any major city-especially for a place that had virtually NO youth homicides throughout most of the late 1990s. But fundamentally Boston isn’t a place that caters to its youth so it’s more or less a non-story.
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Old 03-22-2021, 06:59 PM
 
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Violent crime rate in Boston since 1999

https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/u...20from%202015.

It use to be about 3 times that of MA, is now about double that of MA.

The homicide rate, on the other hand, has not being going down. Which leads to believe Boston may be already at the lowest for the foreseeable future. (you can change tab at the top of the link to see different crimes).
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Old 03-22-2021, 09:43 PM
 
Location: The ghetto
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Person stabbed to the stomach in South End/Back Bay in front of the symphony T stop
I believe that's technically Fenway. Right on the edge of Fenway and Back Bay.
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Old 03-22-2021, 10:24 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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I believe that's technically Fenway. Right on the edge of Fenway and Back Bay.
I'm pretty sure it's technically the south end.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Sy...ec690?hl=en-us
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Old 03-22-2021, 10:27 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Since I last posted- Woman raped in alley in on Pompeii St in Roxbury, fella shot at on Talbot Ave and another at Franklin Field in Dorchester.

Suffice to say the summer is going to be less than pleasant.
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Old 03-22-2021, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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The whole country is a powder keg. Meanwhile housing prices keep going up!
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