Committee to keep Dorchester sh*tty (Boston, Brookline: 2013, rental, crime)

[msRB311]

Southie was a part of the city that gentrified pretty quickly in the 90s/2000s. Seemed like it went from lower class to middle/upper. From 2017-2020 it seemed like it experienced another wave of gentrification. Someone asked me the other day if I’m familiar with SOWA. The city has really changed.

[bostongymjunkie]

Southie didn't gentrify much in the 90's. It wasn't until maybe late 90's early 2000's that it started to heat up.

[WestieWhitie]

Originally Posted by BostonBornMassMade

South End peaked at 32% black in 1960 and 1970. South End had a very large Hispanic population. See here from the city itself: http://www.bostonplans.org/getattach...6-7f49a943eccb

Even “Jamaica Spain” only ever peaked at 28.6% latino. People just overestimate the figures because back in that time Boston and especially the metro was so white that these places stood out.

It was less black than Dorchester Roxbury Mattapan and Hyde Park today: It also had multiple T stops and many night clubs. As well as a or existing legacy make community that was very large (the gentrified part of Dorchester east of Dot Ave/north of Hancock Street has this). Lastly, it has amazing architecture and even greatest proximity to downtown.

Blue Hill Avenue corridor is entirely different dynamic and it so different on the ground than those other areas.

When it comes to real estate the only color that really matters is green - if developers show up and start making attractive offers owners will sell regardless of who occupies the properties. Doesn’t matter if majority of the occupants are white, black or purple polkadot disabled transgender midgets who identify as chinchillas.

[msRB311]

ok i said 90's..didnt' say what part of the 90's. I remember my cousins, both ivy league grads buying a condo in southie in like 2000 and everyone thought they were really going places.

[bostongymjunkie]

I was always mystified by the lack of it given the beach resources and all. But I guess the yuppies back then preferred to be closer to town. Charlestown was an early gentrified area due to being close to the financial district with easy access to 93 and points west.

[msRB311]

Originally Posted by bostongymjunkie

I was always mystified by the lack of it given the beach resources and all. But I guess the yuppies back then preferred to be closer to town. Charlestown was an early gentrified area due to being close to the financial district with easy access to 93 and points west.

you thought there was a lack of gentrification in southie? I didn't.

castle island is nice but its not much of a beach. People do lay out and sit there and drink it seems.

[BostonBornMassMade]

Originally Posted by WestieWhitie

When it comes to real estate the only color that really matters is green - if developers show up and start making attractive offers owners will sell regardless of who occupies the properties. Doesn’t matter if majority of the occupants are white, black or purple polkadot disabled transgender midgets who identify as chinchillas.

not really everyone knows a black owned home is undervalued. Black neighborhoods are always last to gentrify. So BHA can gentrify just not any time in the near or at least immediate future- too many other and better options at the moment.

[massnative71]

Originally Posted by msRB311

Someone asked me the other day if I’m familiar with SOWA.

Where? Is that an actual place???

[bostongymjunkie]

Originally Posted by msRB311

you thought there was a lack of gentrification in southie? I didn't.

castle island is nice but its not much of a beach. People do lay out and sit there and drink it seems.

There was a lack during most of the 90's compared to other areas such as Charlestown and South End, followed by North End. Even areas like Ashmont Hill and small pockets in the Uphhams Corner area were gentrifying more than Southie in the 90's. Based on my own observations. But I guess it's really not surprising given the closed nature of the place in those days and owners holding out on selling as well as renting to carefully selected tenants.

[id77]

Originally Posted by bostongymjunkie

I was always mystified by the lack of it given the beach resources and all. But I guess the yuppies back then preferred to be closer to town. Charlestown was an early gentrified area due to being close to the financial district with easy access to 93 and points west.

Lack of easy T access unless you live in the Seaport or the far western part of Southie. Gentrifiers prefer being near mass transit and will fill those areas before flowing into areas further away.