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Old 05-09-2022, 07:36 PM
 
Location: New England
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Given Hayden's comments about the crime in Downtown Crossing its baffling to me that some of the old farts think hes some sort of law and order guy when alreadysaid he suports the non prosectute list of DA Rollins. it slike absent of a candidate of their liking theyreve decided to reframe Haydens career entirely..it wasnt until the 4th attack or something that he relented in arresting those kids

https://www.wcvb.com/article/boston-...mmon/39865990#

"Suffolk County District Attorney Kevin Hayden said his office was aware of the ongoing issues in downtown Boston.

"We are well aware of the ongoing public safety threat occurring in the Downtown Crossing area, and we are well aware of the juveniles identified," Hayden said in a statement. "We are also fully aware of and support the 2018 criminal reform legislation, which prohibits arrest or prosecution of children under the age of 12 and limits the ability of law enforcement agencies to hold children under the age of 14."

Hayden said under the legislation, the primary responsibility for preventing the attacks falls on city, state and community agencies.

"We urge those agencies to take every possible measure to intervene with the children involved," Hayden said. "Complaints have been issued against the older juveniles identified in these attacks and we are working with Boston Police to execute those complaints. We stand ready to work with all community and government partners to address this urgent issue."


https://commonwealthmagazine.org/cri...olk-da-race-2/
. As for the Rollins do-not-prosecute list of 15 offenses, Hayden said he fully embraces “the overall notion behind it – the idea that our carceral footprint needs to be reduced,” but stops short of saying he will maintain the policy, as written.


He even uses the dreaded word: equity, and almost as bad- "fairness" *gasp*
New Suffolk County DA says he'll focus on equity and fairness, no decision yet on seeking election

Suffolk D.A. unveils plan to aid, not prosecute, those struggling with addiction at Mass. & Cass
"It would be very easy for us to say, 'Let's just get these people out of here. But the correct approach is to say, 'Let's give these people a way out of here.'"


The major difference is Hayden doesn't want to get rid of the gang database and Arroyo does. I don't think itll actually make a difference. Suffolk County isn't going to do anything but elect a liberal and Kevin hayden is a more traditional liberal but its really nbd..
Great point about the Downtown Crossing situation with the kids. I saw that - he was definitely dragging his feet on pressing any kind of charges against them, despite threatening civilians with weapons. He didn't really want any part in it, seemingly. I heard people in the area were unhappy. Interesting note about the gang database as well.
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Old 05-10-2022, 08:09 AM
 
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Given Hayden's comments about the crime in Downtown Crossing its baffling to me that some of the old farts think hes some sort of law and order guy when alreadysaid he suports the non prosectute list of DA Rollins. it slike absent of a candidate of their liking theyreve decided to reframe Haydens career entirely..it wasnt until the 4th attack or something that he relented in arresting those kids

https://www.wcvb.com/article/boston-...mmon/39865990#

"Suffolk County District Attorney Kevin Hayden said his office was aware of the ongoing issues in downtown Boston.

"We are well aware of the ongoing public safety threat occurring in the Downtown Crossing area, and we are well aware of the juveniles identified," Hayden said in a statement. "We are also fully aware of and support the 2018 criminal reform legislation, which prohibits arrest or prosecution of children under the age of 12 and limits the ability of law enforcement agencies to hold children under the age of 14."

Hayden said under the legislation, the primary responsibility for preventing the attacks falls on city, state and community agencies.

"We urge those agencies to take every possible measure to intervene with the children involved," Hayden said. "Complaints have been issued against the older juveniles identified in these attacks and we are working with Boston Police to execute those complaints. We stand ready to work with all community and government partners to address this urgent issue."


https://commonwealthmagazine.org/cri...olk-da-race-2/
. As for the Rollins do-not-prosecute list of 15 offenses, Hayden said he fully embraces “the overall notion behind it – the idea that our carceral footprint needs to be reduced,” but stops short of saying he will maintain the policy, as written.


He even uses the dreaded word: equity, and almost as bad- "fairness" *gasp*
New Suffolk County DA says he'll focus on equity and fairness, no decision yet on seeking election

Suffolk D.A. unveils plan to aid, not prosecute, those struggling with addiction at Mass. & Cass
"It would be very easy for us to say, 'Let's just get these people out of here. But the correct approach is to say, 'Let's give these people a way out of here.'"


The major difference is Hayden doesn't want to get rid of the gang database and Arroyo does. I don't think itll actually make a difference. Suffolk County isn't going to do anything but elect a liberal and Kevin hayden is a more traditional liberal but its really nbd..
Suffolk county will stop electing liberals once the thuggery spreads to all the Back Bay and Beacon Hill streets with seven and eight figure condos. Thugs are more emboldened than ever and it's only a matter of time they realize a single Patek or Vacheron mandatory donation on Marlboro St covers an entire month worth of iPhone mandatory donations in Uphams Corner, with a lot less risk as well.
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Old 05-10-2022, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Suffolk county will stop electing liberals once the thuggery spreads to all the Back Bay and Beacon Hill streets with seven and eight figure condos. Thugs are more emboldened than ever and it's only a matter of time they realize a single Patek or Vacheron mandatory donation on Marlboro St covers an entire month worth of iPhone mandatory donations in Uphams Corner, with a lot less risk as well.
blah blah blah crimes way down. Boston has basically no homicides. Crime in Back Bay is and will be no different than its ever been. Yawn.
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Old 05-10-2022, 10:34 AM
 
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blah blah blah crimes way down. Boston has basically no homicides. Crime in Back Bay is and will be no different than its ever been. Yawn.
I don’t know about that homie, roving bands of thuglets beating people up for being white and smashing up restaurants in the name of BLMillionaires is a fairly recent occurrence. You don’t think they’ll eventually expand their pissing grounds from DTX and swing by Deuxave or No 9 Park for a drink, or maybe Tiffany’s for some bling?
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Old 05-10-2022, 12:37 PM
 
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That was a dumb statement to release in Suffolk County. The reality is you guys are ideologically very similar. And Arroyo has a lot more name recognition and a lot of respect in Boston.
He is not wrong though. He is right. Why would you want to elect as the head of prosecutors in the county someone with 0 experience as a prosecutor?
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Old 05-10-2022, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Boston
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I don’t know about that homie, roving bands of thuglets beating people up for being white and smashing up restaurants in the name of BLMillionaires is a fairly recent occurrence. You don’t think they’ll eventually expand their pissing grounds from DTX and swing by Deuxave or No 9 Park for a drink, or maybe Tiffany’s for some bling?


No. If those neighborhoods were worthwhile targets, they'd already be targeted. You seem to be under the false impression that the police in Back Bay and Beacon Hill are doing a better/different/more thorough job than those in neighborhoods like DTX or Mattapan.
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Old 05-10-2022, 03:10 PM
 
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No. If those neighborhoods were worthwhile targets, they'd already be targeted. You seem to be under the false impression that the police in Back Bay and Beacon Hill are doing a better/different/more thorough job than those in neighborhoods like DTX or Mattapan.

Thugs get more emboldened once they’re shown their thuggery will be tolerated - you didn’t have low-lifes walking out of shops with full carts of unpaid goods while laughing in the employee’s faces until very recently. Similarly, you didn’t have small-time grifters who would have gotten laughed out of some podunk bodega until just a few years ago shaking down multi-billion dollar corporations for tens or even hundreds of millions of dollars.
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Old 05-10-2022, 06:54 PM
 
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No. If those neighborhoods were worthwhile targets, they'd already be targeted. You seem to be under the false impression that the police in Back Bay and Beacon Hill are doing a better/different/more thorough job than those in neighborhoods like DTX or Mattapan.
https://boston.cbslocal.com/2022/05/...am-restaurant/ - well, the wildings did spread to the suburbs already, here’s to hoping next one is in Brookline, Cambridge or some other 10 BLMillionaire signs per sqft limousine liberal enclave.

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Old 05-10-2022, 09:18 PM
 
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He is not wrong though. He is right. Why would you want to elect as the head of prosecutors in the county someone with 0 experience as a prosecutor?

Nobody would, in their right mind that is. But we are talking about the same electorate that elected Wu, Rollins and Pressley. Does one really need to say any more?
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Old 05-10-2022, 09:20 PM
 
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https://boston.cbslocal.com/2022/05/...am-restaurant/ - well, the wildings did spread to the suburbs already, here’s to hoping next one is in Brookline, Cambridge or some other 10 BLMillionaire signs per sqft limousine liberal enclave.

While I certainly don't wish these animals on anybody in any town, that's unfortunately the only way meaningful change will ever come about.
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