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Old 01-01-2011, 05:06 AM
 
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What The HELL HAPPEN TO THE HEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION ? As a former fan of Ali, Larry Holmes, Mike Tyson, Gerry Cooney,Andrew Young, L. Lewis, and Forman, I can't name a single current Heavyweight Boxer ( Not counting Old a## Holyfield ).
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Old 01-01-2011, 05:58 AM
 
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I am at the "Who cares" level.

As a white guy, it was finally nice to see our white champ, finally. Now years later, the heavyweight division has turned into...nothing, uninteresting. We can blame the Klito's. Now, I wish that they would not ever have become champs. Problem is, their size stymies any potential lead. Plus, this past decade has been absolutely horrible for the bigs, in regards American fighters. As a huge boxing fan, I truly want to get out of the "who cares" level. To help me, we need "someone" that is white, black, brown or whatever to bring the division back to its glory days....but, where is he???
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Old 01-01-2011, 10:50 AM
 
Location: South FL
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It's garbage, the American HW's are nothing but fat lards who can't even throw a punch and not get tired.

Europeans run the high divisions (from Super Middleweight to HW).
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Old 01-02-2011, 07:16 PM
 
Location: A Thousand Miles From Nowhere
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Yeah, all the heavyweights suck these days. I think we need a young Ali type to pull people back into the sport of boxing. Seems like there's greater interest in the MMA. Oh well.
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Old 01-02-2011, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Durham, NC
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Heavyweight boxing is very much a Euro-sport now. Has been moving that way for the last five years. Seems like every division above 160 has become dominated by European fighters.
Don't get me wrong; there are still quality US fighters in these divisions, it's just that they don't dominate like they used to.

There seems to be a perception in the U.S. that the sport is down in popularity, but actually it is just the opposite. The sport of boxing is a worldwide phenomena and is practiced on every continent and in almost every nation. It is because of the lack of new U.S. heavyweight talent and the added competition from other nations in the lower weight classes that leads folks to believe that somehow the sport is "dying". This is a big misconception. Ironically, alot of these European fighters have moved to the U.S. and train here.

All the big powerful athletes in the U.S play football, baseball, and basketball nowadays and little else it seems. MMA doesn't count because it is 75% wrestling and jiu-jitsu and the kickboxing and boxing they try to do is journeyman quality at best. The NFL is where today's Mike Tyson and George Foreman and Larry Holmes are.
Imagine if Reggie Bush was a heavyweight fighter? Or Ray Lewis? Or Brian Urlacher?
Look at guys like Terrell Owens or Larry Fitzgerald. Tall, fast, powerful men who are always in excellent shape. Imagine if they learned how to use a jab or throw an overhand right.
Even some bigger NBA guards or forwards would make good heavyweight fighters. Think if 6'8" 245lb LeBron James was a boxer and stepped in the ring against one of the Klitschko brothers.

Young black kids don't get into boxing nearly as much as they used to and the white suburban kids think MMA is so cool with all of it's WWE-type marketing and they dismiss boxing as something from the past. Latino kids in the U.S are the only ones that seem to gravitate towards boxing nowadays, but mostly the lighter weight classes.
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Old 01-05-2011, 09:28 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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The heavyweight division has always been a reflection on the state of society. This current crop is no exception. We're at a low point in many ways.
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Old 01-10-2011, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Back in the gym...Yo Adrian!
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For some reason the Heavyweight division has always received the glory in boxing, but it was never an indication of talent. It appeals more to the casual fight fan. As a rule, most heavyweights throughout history are not the most talented boxers. That's why fighters such as Dempsey, Louis, Ali, and Holyfield were so successful...they were very good boxers fighting guys who weren't that exceptional in terms of boxing skill. At least not on a pound for pound scale when measured against Middleweight's, Welterweights, Lightweights etc.

I've come to expect very little from HW's. It's an entertaining division because you get two large athletes pounding away at one another with no weight limitations. You get more "David vs. Goliath" match-ups which add some element of interest as well.

The Klits are like having two Primo Carnera's at the top of the heap and no Joe Louis around to clean house. The only way to save this division is for another Louis, Ali, Tyson to come around. But it has to happen fast because the Klits are going to retire in the next couple of years and then when a great fighter like Louis or Holyfield finally does come on the scene there will be no one to fight. He'll end up like Larry Holmes...a great fighter/champion with no big name opponent to be measured against.
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Old 01-15-2011, 04:55 PM
 
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What The HELL HAPPEN TO THE HEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION ? As a former fan of Ali, Larry Holmes, Mike Tyson, Gerry Cooney,Andrew Young, L. Lewis, and Forman, I can't name a single current Heavyweight Boxer ( Not counting Old a## Holyfield ).
The Klitschko brothers (SP?) are great technical boxers. They are however not charismatic and they really do very little boxing in America. They simply don't create a lot of media buzz on this side of the pond.

There hasn't been an genuine American heavyweight in the last ten years you could call a star. It could be the sport in no longer attracting the best athletes here in the United States in terms of big guys.
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