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Old 12-19-2019, 10:29 AM
 
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He's the only 8 division world champion in boxing history, and his resume is absolutely insane.

Has he done enough to be considered a top 10 ATG?
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Old 12-19-2019, 03:34 PM
 
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What’s your top 10? Doesn’t have to be in order...
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Old 12-19-2019, 04:10 PM
 
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He's the only 8 division world champion in boxing history, and his resume is absolutely insane.

Has he done enough to be considered a top 10 ATG?
I will say this about Manny.

Considering his size and build, he was in my opinion, during his peak, as skilled and as well trained and toned of a boxing machine as there ever was.

Go back and watch the tapes of him taking out these bigger guys systematically, just tearing them apart round by round because he was too fast. And when I say too fast, they couldn't even do anything about it.

It's really hard to say who the best boxer is because their primes are so short, but at his prime, nobody was better than Manny in terms of skill, speed, and stamina.

I have no doubt Manny would have beaten Mayweather in both of their primes, but Mayweather's style is more condusive to a longer career and racking up more wins, so you could argue he was better.
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Old 12-19-2019, 10:53 PM
 
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I will say this about Manny.

Considering his size and build, he was in my opinion, during his peak, as skilled and as well trained and toned of a boxing machine as there ever was.

Go back and watch the tapes of him taking out these bigger guys systematically, just tearing them apart round by round because he was too fast. And when I say too fast, they couldn't even do anything about it.

It's really hard to say who the best boxer is because their primes are so short, but at his prime, nobody was better than Manny in terms of skill, speed, and stamina.

I have no doubt Manny would have beaten Mayweather in both of their primes, but Mayweather's style is more condusive to a longer career and racking up more wins, so you could argue he was better.
Agree with this. Not top 10, but top 5, surely
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Old 01-18-2020, 05:30 AM
 
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The thing that amazes me about him is that he started at like a 4’11” 98lbs 16 year old.

I mean imagine seeing 98lb Manny all those years ago and knowing the same little guy would go on to beat up bigger men in many other heavier weight classes.

Manny got A LOT out of his physical attributes.
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Old 01-19-2020, 05:31 PM
 
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Assuming that you mean all weight classes. Not sure if Pacquiao would make Top 10. Definitely worth consideration. That would be a difficult list to compile. Heavyweights would likely garner a lot of attention from many (including myself) and there's so many greats in the lower weight classes.

If only Bert Sugar were still alive to ask.
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Old 01-21-2020, 09:14 AM
 
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I'd have to say no considering Mayweather often gets left off Top 10 lists. Maybe if we were talking about the greatest in our lifetime, but there have been a lot of legends in the long and storied history of boxing.
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Old 01-21-2020, 09:24 AM
 
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The good thing about boxing is that there hasn't been a lot of tactical or technical innovation since the 1940s. So there's not as much of a "Nuh uh, you can't compare different eras" argument as you might get in basketball, football or even baseball. And even though athletes today have "superior" training methods and nutrition, the one thing boxing has that no other sport does, as Max Kellerman says, is the "100 point shot." All the nutrition in the world cannot improve the quality of your chin. Just ask Anthony Joshua.

While there's no doubt the 2018 Golden State Warriors would smoke the 1958 St. Louis Hawks, there's a lot of doubt about whether Terrence Crawford or Shawn Porter would smoke Jose Napoles or SRR. In fact, the smart money would likely be on the old school guys. Boxing is probably the only sport where athletes from 60-70 years ago aren't a tremendous disadvantage compared to the athletes of today.
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Old 01-21-2020, 05:57 PM
 
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Steroids are whack
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Old 01-21-2020, 09:00 PM
 
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Interesting list here. It's the all-time rankings (active and retired) from BoxRec. Not sure of the methodology for the points but they have Pacquiao ranked as #2 all time.
https://boxrec.com/en/ratings?InH%5B...atus%5D=&r_go=
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