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Old 02-22-2013, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Reno, NV
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If you don't drink to the point of drunkeness or mindless intoxication, I doubt that it's a problem. Buddhism is about making wise choices for one's self, not mindlesslessly following rules. If you have problems with your behavior when you drink, then you should avoid it, though. It doesn't sound like that's a problem for you.

I'll add that my faither-in-law is a Buddhist monk, and his sect's interpretation is that occasional moderate drinking is okay - and he enjoys the occasional glass of wine himself.
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Old 02-22-2013, 03:26 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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If you don't drink to the point of drunkeness or mindless intoxication, I doubt that it's a problem. Buddhism is about making wise choices for one's self, not mindlesslessly following rules. If you have problems with your behavior when you drink, then you should avoid it, though. It doesn't sound like that's a problem for you.

I'll add that my faither-in-law is a Buddhist monk, and his sect's interpretation is that occasional moderate drinking is okay - and he enjoys the occasional glass of wine himself.
I agree.

I take seriously the precept against drunkeness or intoxication, but a half glass of wine or a single glass of beer is not bad in my opinion.

When I had stomach surgery over two years ago I had to limit myself to just one small drink anyway. When I'm out with friends I order a soft drink and no one has a problem with that.
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Old 02-22-2013, 08:06 PM
 
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You're using a Theosophist writing to make an argument about how to interpret a Buddhist precept. I don't know anything about Theosophy, so I'm not sure whether they are philosophically compatible. Just because Theosophy believes in rebrith/reincarnation, that doesn't mean it's the same concept of rebirth/reincarnation as in Buddhism, or that the ideas of "classes of psychic destiny" makes sense in Buddhism.

Mental inclinations have quite a bit to do with the physical--personality traits often changes when people suffer brain damage. The mind isn't wholly separate from the meat.

As for infants of addict mothers, that's not the same point as the one you made about "tolerance building up over lifetimes". That's the actions of one person affecting another, which is a wholly different matter than the point you made about a person's actions affecting themselves in a later lifetime.

You are wrong on highlight #1 and should not be arguing it based on highlight #2. Percival is not a Theosophist, He was at some point, as a stepping stone in His spiritual development, but left society long long before He had His enlightenment and wrote Thinking and Destiny. Much better way to approach this is to, actually, READ His work, and then maybe come to any meaningful conclusions.
As of the congenital addictions - yes, I do agree with you. It was just an example, maybe not the most fortunate.
You, also, have it backwards on physical and spiritual. Spiritual determines physical, not the other way around. You need to read the quote again, and more carefully. EVERYTHING that comes into existence, physical, psychic, mental, and noetic, is determined by that particular Self previous thinking, and is manifasted as its destiny in those four aspects.
I do appreciate your opinion. But, until you familiarize yourself with His work(-s), it is quite immature to jump to any judgements. Do agree, that there might be some teachings, that may be incompassing, as in - ANY religion or teaching known to humanity is coming from them and is in them. It is like looking at a forest - you do not see forest behind the trees, with tress being Christianity, Buddhism, Judaism, Sikhism, agnosticism, atheism, and so on and so on.
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