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Old 05-18-2020, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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Karma accrues to actions that are spurred by desire.
Even desiring good karma can earn karma! So without attachment to the result.
That kind of frees us I think in some ways.
You buy a homeless person a sandwich because you can and he is hungry, and move on.
Ah, true non-attachment ---'I am not the doer' - I think we, as a whole,
do good things all the time and move on.
...I never thought about karma not even happening, tho. Just never thought about it.

Not feeling happy or good about giving the homeless guy something feels robotic to me.
As if we float thru life with no desire, no heart, no emotion, joy when we help someone, no dreams,
no hope or plans - just 'doing things' all detached...the Buddhist's way, I suppose.(?)

It's a different approach than I have. It suits many people - gives them peace, I know.
I am detached often...when I wanna be. (Ha, usually when bad things happen - I'm a
big shrugger of my shoulders.)

I like feeling good and satisfied helping someone fix their fence...I like the feeling of joy.
I'd make a bad Buddhist.
(I am a believer in all roads lead to Rome.)
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Old 05-18-2020, 01:35 PM
 
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If it's merely cause and effect, there doesn't have to be a reason.
Ha, no, there doesn't have to be ---but, me? I see a reason in everything!!!!!
Simply everything!
Isn't it funny how different we all are!
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Old 05-18-2020, 04:32 PM
 
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Not feeling happy or good about giving the homeless guy something feels robotic to me.
As if we float thru life with no desire, no heart, no emotion, joy when we help someone, no dreams,
no hope or plans - just 'doing things' all detached...the Buddhist's way, I suppose.(?)

I like feeling good and satisfied helping someone fix their fence...I like the feeling of joy.
I'd make a bad Buddhist.
(I am a believer in all roads lead to Rome.)

Someone asking me for money is troublesome for me because I know how immense homelessness and poverty is and what I give is only a tiny dent, and I feel overwhelmed thinking of it, so it does not make me feel good. That is just me, not Buddhist way or anything. I merely look at as doing my part.



If it gives you joy well that fine too. But I think the way karma works is not about the emotion we feel but the expectation that we have as if we have earned a piece of heaven. Then we need to come back to earn that reward! The point of karma is to end the cycle of rebirth.
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Old 05-18-2020, 05:43 PM
 
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The point of karma is to end the cycle of rebirth.

Is it? "karma" actually binds one to the wheel of samsar. Not frees one. Well, one binds himself by creating its own "karma", better said. But, either way, "karma" is not a liberating agent.Matter of fact, it carries no judgement or intention in it. It simply is. Just like, say a bridge over a river. It simply is and functions as bridge.

It is strictly educational agent. This is how human learns and, eventually, manages to exist without creating "karma".

Some say, when one becomes enlightened, his "karma" is burnt out in instance.

Trying to counter "bad karma" with "good deeds" is futile. Look at Jine, they tried that for centuries.
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Old 05-19-2020, 10:03 AM
 
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And for what end, what reason is there karma?
To purify. Why? To go Home...the drop realizing it is part of the Ocean. (All my belief system.)
So not the Buddhist thinking.
I was listening to Mooji in the background and so looked up samsara to make sure I understood his words.
Whatdyaknow, I found this: Samsara, Karma & Dharma The Buddha explained that beings are reborn countless times
in a continuing cycle of suffering called samsara.
In order to break free of samsara, beings must purify their karma—
the accumulation of their positive and negative thoughts and actions.


Who knew? I had no idea Buddha said the above. LOL ---But I know not all Buddhists
believe the same things.
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Old 05-19-2020, 10:10 AM
 
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I was listening to Mooji in the background and so looked up samsara to make sure I understood his words.
Whatdyaknow, I found this: Samsara, Karma & Dharma The Buddha explained that beings are reborn countless times
in a continuing cycle of suffering called samsara.
In order to break free of samsara, beings must purify their karma—
the accumulation of their positive and negative thoughts and actions.


Who knew? I had no idea Buddha said the above. LOL ---But I know not all Buddhists
believe the same things.
Did you find out what purifying their karma means? I have not heard that term befor, but then i know very little of Buddhism.
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