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Old 02-18-2010, 04:01 PM
 
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I've seen interesting mention of this somewhere. Anyone have links or book references?
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Old 02-18-2010, 04:47 PM
 
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I've read some books on the subject, but it wasn't really called remote viewing. "Remote viewing" is more a phrase, that if it didn't originate was popularized by by the cia/army 's use of the term. To the extent that anything similar was discussed in Tibetan Buddhism, it was called astral projection. Basically they would awaken their third eye, and then astral project, and explore the universe in that sense. As far as any books, go to a local library, university one if you have access.
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Old 02-19-2010, 03:51 PM
 
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People, the OP asked a legitimate question..This is not a chat thread.. Either answer the question or move on...Thank you
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Old 02-25-2010, 11:29 PM
 
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I've read some books on the subject, but it wasn't really called remote viewing. "Remote viewing" is more a phrase, that if it didn't originate was popularized by by the cia/army 's use of the term. To the extent that anything similar was discussed in Tibetan Buddhism, it was called astral projection. Basically they would awaken their third eye, and then astral project, and explore the universe in that sense. As far as any books, go to a local library, university one if you have access.
Right. The reference to "remote viewing" in Tibetan Buddhism (I have seen this) is a then misnomer as there must be distinctions between the acts of "astral projection" and "remote viewing." ?
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Old 02-25-2010, 11:55 PM
 
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Right. The reference to "remote viewing" in Tibetan Buddhism (I have seen this) is a then misnomer as there must be distinctions between the acts of "astral projection" and "remote viewing." ?
Yea, it is a misnomer; Remote viewing is more about entering into a relaxed state and trying to get information about a location without actually being there and usually revolves around drawing outlines of objects that appear in one's head in this relaxed state. While astral projection is usually performed by someone who has been practicing meditation for some period of time and involves some form of separative process between one's physical body and another kind of body, which itself is somewhat capable of viewing physical things. This body remains connected to the physical body by some kind of cord, which could potentially break. In this kinda reality, spirits and other things are seen to be moving around the physical world that weren't previously visible before one had projected. People who astrally project normally are said to have awakened their third eye previously to such attempts.

Some remote viewing links:
Stargate - Remote viewing history - military
http://www.richardwiseman.com/resources/SAICcrit.pdf
Remote Viewing - Defense Intelligence Agency Coordinate Remote Viewing Manual (CRV Manual)
CIA-Initiated RV Program at SRI
Internet Archive: Free Download: CIA Remote Viewing (http://www.archive.org/details/CIA_Remote_Viewing - broken link) movie on remote viewing

Tibetan Buddhism:
Internet Archive: Free Download: Third Eye a book, Lobsang Rampa - Third Eye, written by a Tibetan Buddhist, discusses astral projection
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Old 02-26-2010, 12:00 AM
 
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What if the remote viewer "accidentally" astral projects?

Just kidding, just kidding.

From what I've read in Tibetan Buddhism though, I still get the sense that there is some element of remote viewing in some of the searches and non-meditative exercises. I've got nothing to back this up though.

JN- interesting stuff though.
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Old 02-26-2010, 12:02 AM
 
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Some remote viewing links:
Stargate - Remote viewing history - military
http://www.richardwiseman.com/resources/SAICcrit.pdf
Remote Viewing - Defense Intelligence Agency Coordinate Remote Viewing Manual (CRV Manual)
CIA-Initiated RV Program at SRI
Internet Archive: Free Download: CIA Remote Viewing (http://www.archive.org/details/CIA_Remote_Viewing - broken link) movie on remote viewing

Tibetan Buddhism:
Internet Archive: Free Download: Third Eye a book, Lobsang Rampa - Third Eye, written by a Tibetan Buddhist, discusses astral projection
I've seen some of the links. RV has got to have a history before and beyond the military's coinage of it though.....
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Old 02-26-2010, 12:39 AM
 
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What if the remote viewer "accidentally" astral projects?

Just kidding, just kidding.

From what I've read in Tibetan Buddhism though, I still get the sense that there is some element of remote viewing in some of the searches and non-meditative exercises. I've got nothing to back this up though.

JN- interesting stuff though.
Well I've seen the use of the term clairvoyance and clairaudience. Maybe, in the discussion of siddhi powers, you've seen something like the term "remote viewing". There are some conceptual similarities between "remote viewing" and "astral projection". Even in the process of awakening the third eye, you are said to gain access to another source of information you previously didn't have access to. I'm not sure to what extent the term "remote viewing" is used in the Tibetan Buddhist community, in the recent sense, but the term is a relatively new one. Remote viewers are more like passive receivers of information. In a somewhat non-Buddhism related note, some gurus supposedly can send messages to their followers in both auditory and visual formats if their student has been sufficiently awakened. See Autobiography of a Yogi by Paramhansa Yogananda for example.


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I've seen some of the links. RV has got to have a history before and beyond the military's coinage of it though.....
RV has a very specific goal and mindset, but basically it has as its foundation the esoteric and transcendental movements/transcendental meditation of the 60s and 70s and its love of eastern philosophy and religion. Or rather those who developed RV to some degree based it on the eastern philosophies and religion and the general spirit of the 60s and 70s.
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Old 03-01-2010, 05:40 PM
 
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it's the same thing you do every night "spontaneously" in your night-time dreams
a part of your awareness "leaves" your physical body and is somehwere else, not in your bed sleeping

when a person can do it consciously and at will, it is called
astral projection
remote viewing

(More accurately, there are ALWAYS parts of you that are romping and playing in other dimensions, both while you are awake and while you are asleep. When a person gains conscious control, they are able to shift their awareness into these other parts of themselves that are simultaneously having adventures elsewhere. It is a shift in awareness from where a person's physical body is, to other places where the non-physical parts of you are simultaneously existing and having experiences.)
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Old 08-08-2010, 08:05 AM
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I'll be darned....when I saw this thread I thought someone has gotten remote viewing and astral projection mixed up...until I googled "are remote viewing and astral projection the same thing". Evidently they are indeed connected. Learn something new every day...

Here is the book I found several years ago...Remote Viewing Secrets: A Handbook by Joe McMoneagle With what I know about both astral projection and remote viewing, they could be the same. The way remote viewing is described in this book as well as articles I've read, it just didn't occur to me that what they may have been referring to was astral projection...especially since the CIA was involved Also didn't know that Buddhists practice astral projection...have never heard it referred to. Except...when they mention - quite a lot - that body sensations are not the purpose of meditation. Now I know that they mean by that (I think!)
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