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I appreciate Jim Kelly's enthusiasm, but he essentially has to convince investors how he's going to make them money despite any loan debt/interest, need for a new stadium, and increase in revenue to mirror the most recent stadium developments (like Cowboys or MetLife). It may be that another eventual outcome could be that buyers, seeing local needs surmounting profitability, may end up losing enough money in the process, and the team goes up for sale again. And at that point, it's a death sentence.
I'm surprised there is not any talk about mirroring the Packers with a publicly owned, nonprofit model. That's how they seem to survive a little easier
And I repeat, the Bills are one of the most watched Franchises in the league, despite its small market. TV ratings, TV ratings.
Buffalo does not have a wealth problem. We have 10 million residents within 100 miles from the Stadium. If you need executive boxes, have the new owners take a day trip up to Bay Street and make some sales.
I think Syracuse's downtown actually has more of a "big city" feel than most parts of downtown Buffalo. The Armory Square area is great.
Did not get that vibe at all...and the comparison (Buffalo) doesn't put up all that much of a fight. Syracuse's downtown seemed like a mini-Buffalo, a bit more desolate than the still-depressing Buffalo downtown. The rest of the city that I saw, as I said, reminded me of a bigger Binghamton.
ckh, I saw the nice neighborhoods to the east of the university. The problem was, they were entirely residential and depressingly quiet on an overcast Sunday in late April. No Elmwood or even Hertel in that city that I could see.
Did not get that vibe at all...and the comparison (Buffalo) doesn't put up all that much of a fight. Syracuse's downtown seemed like a mini-Buffalo, a bit more desolate than the still-depressing Buffalo downtown. The rest of the city that I saw, as I said, reminded me of a bigger Binghamton.
ckh, I saw the nice neighborhoods to the east of the university. The problem was, they were entirely residential and depressingly quiet on an overcast Sunday in late April. No Elmwood or even Hertel in that city that I could see.
This was on a Sunday. So, that could be it. I take it that you didn't go to Armory Square or Hanover Square in Downtown or to Westcott or Eastwood. If you went east of campus by going east on Euclid and north on Westcott, you would have ran into the business district. If you went south on Westcott, you would run into Barry Park and just east of campus is Thornden Park. James Street takes you to Eastwood. There are some places on North Salina and pubs/restaurants on Tipp Hill.
Again, I don't think you went around to these areas.
Binghamton's West and Southwestern neighborhoods are very nice and its Downtown is coming along. It is a very safe metro comparatively as well.
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And I repeat, the Bills are one of the most watched Franchises in the league, despite its small market. TV ratings, TV ratings.
Buffalo does not have a wealth problem. We have 10 million residents within 100 miles from the Stadium. If you need executive boxes, have the new owners take a day trip up to Bay Street and make some sales.
That was a Buffalo author that wrote that article, BTW.
TV ratings are done on a "share" basis, meaning what the percentage of TV viewing audience is watching. That doesn't mean more watchers, it means a greater percentage of watchers.
NYC total viewers estimates: 7,433,820
NY Giants share - 15.3
NY Giants viewers - 1,137,374
Share of a market is important for local advertising (little $), but market size is important for national advertising (BIG $$$$). Share weighs little on the actual value of a team.
This was on a Sunday. So, that could be it. I take it that you didn't go to Armory Square or Hanover Square in Downtown or to Westcott or Eastwood. If you went east of campus by going east on Euclid and north on Westcott, you would have ran into the business district. If you went south on Westcott, you would run into Barry Park and just east of campus is Thornden Park. James Street takes you to Eastwood. There are some places on North Salina and pubs/restaurants on Tipp Hill.
Again, I don't think you went around to these areas.
Binghamton's West and Southwestern neighborhoods are very nice and its Downtown is coming along. It is a very safe metro comparatively as well.
I didn't realize the downtown was even big enough to warrant a distinction between separate areas...obviously squares can be located at opposite ends of the same block, so. I'd have to consult a map (and a local one at that) to see in detail the places you mention and how they correspond with the territory I traversed. I will say this--I noted as I passed the Landmark Theater that one of my all-time favorite bands, Alice In Chains, was advertised as having a show there a week or two hence...and my instant mental response was, nah, wouldn't be worth it to have to come back to this place. So that might give you some idea of how poor of an impression the downtown area made with me. The only thing I thought was cool was some sort of old-school-seeming record store that was located at the end of a "downtown cul-de-sac", if such a thing can exist. I believe it might actually have been called "the Sound Garden", thus referencing another great early nineties (primarily...but like AIC, still around today) Seattle band. If I am remembering correctly, then that is the definite highlight of your city in my book.
I didn't realize the downtown was even big enough to warrant a distinction between separate areas...obviously squares can be located at opposite ends of the same block, so. I'd have to consult a map (and a local one at that) to see in detail the places you mention and how they correspond with the territory I traversed. I will say this--I noted as I passed the Landmark Theater that one of my all-time favorite bands, Alice In Chains, was advertised as having a show there a week or two hence...and my instant mental response was, nah, wouldn't be worth it to have to come back to this place. So that might give you some idea of how poor of an impression the downtown area made with me. The only thing I thought was cool was some sort of old-school-seeming record store that was located at the end of a "downtown cul-de-sac", if such a thing can exist. I believe it might actually have been called "the Sound Garden", thus referencing another great early nineties (primarily...but like AIC, still around today) Seattle band. If I am remembering correctly, then that is the definite highlight of your city in my book.
Yeah, there's also Clinton Square(where most of the festivals occur and ice skating in the winter), Columbus Circle and some may include Franklin Square into Downtown. Sound Garden is in Armory Square. Even by the University, there's Marshall Street and the East Genesee Street corridor where Syracuse Stage is located north of campus, along with Westcott east of campus. Home » Downtown Committee of Syracuse
I didn't realize the downtown was even big enough to warrant a distinction between separate areas...obviously squares can be located at opposite ends of the same block, so. I'd have to consult a map (and a local one at that) to see in detail the places you mention and how they correspond with the territory I traversed. I will say this--I noted as I passed the Landmark Theater that one of my all-time favorite bands, Alice In Chains, was advertised as having a show there a week or two hence...and my instant mental response was, nah, wouldn't be worth it to have to come back to this place. So that might give you some idea of how poor of an impression the downtown area made with me. The only thing I thought was cool was some sort of old-school-seeming record store that was located at the end of a "downtown cul-de-sac", if such a thing can exist. I believe it might actually have been called "the Sound Garden", thus referencing another great early nineties (primarily...but like AIC, still around today) Seattle band. If I am remembering correctly, then that is the definite highlight of your city in my book.
Then you have seen Armory Square. I love the way you describe it. I remember the first time I saw it, I was like this is it?? Its tiny. A short legged person could walk the whole area in 4½ minutes.
Then you have seen Armory Square. I love the way you describe it. I remember the first time I saw it, I was like this is it?? Its tiny. A short legged person could walk the whole area in 4½ minutes.
I don't know about 4 and a half minutes, but it is a small, compact area. It is pretty much a bunch of restaurants, bars, clothing stores and some specialty stores, along with the MOST, which has an IMAX Theater. Armory Square :: Official Website for Historic Downtown Syracuse, NY
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