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But. there are no shortage of NEW, mostly ugly, tasteless steel & glass buildings being built by suburban contractors who only know 'new'. Starting with the joke of a eyesore Erie County had built a few years ago on Elm & S. Division St's.
If the "Depot" was downtown, it would of been long developed and fully occupied.
Amazing the state is pushing for $1,000,000,000 (as in billion) for extend that useless 'trucking subsidy' called the '219', but there is no money to bring back a landmark which would turn around the east side.
Too many other hotels, lack of more convenient parking & apparent insufficient remodeling of the rooms themselves based on what I have read over the years.
I never stayed there, nor have I ever seen any of the rooms, so that isn't first hand.
What does your question have to do with what you quoted??
Too many other hotels, lack of more convenient parking & apparent insufficient remodeling of the rooms themselves based on what I have read over the years.
I never stayed there, nor have I ever seen any of the rooms, so that isn't first hand.
What does your question have to do with what you quoted??
I rate the Statler in the same category as the CT. Historic, iconic landmark. That's why I didn't also mention HSBC
There are new hotels going up in Buffalo all the time. If someone did a botch job in the past, why don't they fix it or tear the building down?
If you're talking the 219, I agree with you. I've seen it many places called "one of the most wasteful highway projects in the country"
One of the immediate problems are the old REA buildings, especially where the platform tracks were. There us nothing to save as there wasn't with the Old NYC Freighthouse on Ohio St. which was finally torn down.
Clearing the area to the SW of the tower would make a huge difference. I have yet to see anyone even mentioning this anywhere. See the attachments (the areas outlined in red in the closeup).
FYI;
In the 1st pic; the short lived K-Mart is at the top left,
the USPS facility on William St. is the lower right,
the Belt Line runs due north of the Depot,
the Broadway Market (and parking ramp) is towards the upper left.
In the closeup; the station platform tracks east of the Concourse (which is not accessible due to the removal of a portion of it back in the 80's for clearance reasons) have been used by an construction equipment parts dealer (believe it or not),
the far left lower structure was part of the REA loading/unloading platforms which is the biggest eyesore,
NE of that were their offices (I believe).
(The black lines are what Google Earth thinks are active rail lines. Some of those are not in these shots)
I would also like to see removed is a four story office extension of the tower which I see no use for considering the vast amount of space in the main structure (not outlined).
The CT office tower itself floor plans are very small and has a large Elevator core w/4 Elevators
taking up 1/4 to 1/3 of each floor plan, It's cheaper to tear it down and build a new replica or something new
but even if you did, What's going to go in there because of it's location ? Just about every single new project
is either Lofts, condos, & apartments, soon or later you going to have to many of them for the market and prices are going to drop, You need new business's to support them.
Fortunately or unfortunately, depending on your point of view, it looks like the real push is just to move the existing station south down Exchange St. to favor "Canalside" thanks to certain people with $$ (AKA Amherst style).
Problem with that is simple, the two most important medium trains are still NOT served: The Lake Shore Limited #48 & 49.
Some argue, there are other Empire Service trains around the same time going east and to a lessor extent coming west, but that completely missed the point of where those trains service: WEST OF BUFFALO!
What could be more convenient for someone from the west, Chicago for example, to arrive close to downtown Buffalo at 9am in the morning after a nights rest on a train.
And the reverse, leave downtown at midnight, get their rest and arrive west of Cleveland in the early morning hours.
The Mayor needed to realized this also, not bow to $$ just because a certain interest owns a sports team. There is enough going on at Canalside, spread the wealth elsewhere and service ALL the trains in one location.
Fortunately or unfortunately, depending on your point of view, it looks like the real push is just to move the existing station south down Exchange St. to favor "Canalside" thanks to certain people with $$ (AKA Amherst style).
Problem with that is simple, the two most important medium trains are still NOT served: The Lake Shore Limited #48 & 49.
Some argue, there are other Empire Service trains around the same time going east and to a lessor extent coming west, but that completely missed the point of where those trains service: WEST OF BUFFALO!
What could be more convenient for someone from the west, Chicago for example, to arrive close to downtown Buffalo at 9am in the morning after a nights rest on a train.
And the reverse, leave downtown at midnight, get their rest and arrive west of Cleveland in the early morning hours.
The Mayor needed to realized this also, not bow to $$ just because a certain interest owns a sports team. There is enough going on at Canalside, spread the wealth elsewhere and service ALL the trains in one location.
Makes sense and it is in an area that still has some decent "bones" nearby, but just needs to be revitalized.
There is the question of if the area could or should have 2 train stations or could the Central Terminal be used for a local transportation purpose?
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