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Old 06-19-2016, 11:09 AM
 
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The Real Buffalo NY watch the video, They call that a upswing


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mLnD-GIFq0
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Old 06-19-2016, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Buffalo, NY
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Thanks for posting this historical video. Many people had no idea how far Buffalo had fallen, even as late as 2010 when the video was made.

It is incredible how much positive change has occurred since that video was posted. It is hardly recognizable as the same city! The old images of the Genesee Gateway, downtown, Larkin - it is amazing how much the city has improved in such a short period of time.

Some people are still living in the past, or have never seen what the city had to rise from.

Maybe we can use the video like a "Where's Waldo" thing - identify what has changed since the video was taken, or even what statements were wrong or misleading in the original.

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Old 06-19-2016, 04:11 PM
 
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Your right much has changed since 2010,

The Tallest Building in Buffalo is now empty, vacant and bankruptcy (see other posts)
when HSBC pulled 4,000 jobs out of Buffalo

Buffalo City Population's was in 2009 270,000 in 2015 it's well below 250,000

Property Taxes are now higher then what they were posted in the video and Government
workers salaries are now higher then what was in the video

And that's just for starters, Sure sounds like a rebirth & renaissance going on
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Old 06-19-2016, 04:53 PM
 
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Thanks for posting this historical video. Many people had no idea how far Buffalo had fallen, even as late as 2010 when the video was made.

It is incredible how much positive change has occurred since that video was posted. It is hardly recognizable as the same city! The old images of the Genesee Gateway, downtown, Larkin - it is amazing how much the city has improved in such a short period of time.

Some people are still living in the past, or have never seen what the city had to rise from.

Maybe we can use the video like a "Where's Waldo" thing - identify what has changed since the video was taken, or even what statements were wrong or misleading in the original.
Yeah, I think sometimes it is a matter of perspective and it seems like people that live in/near the area or have been there to witness the positive changes seem to make note of them.
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Old 06-19-2016, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Buffalo, NY
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Your right much has changed since 2010,

The Tallest Building in Buffalo is now empty, vacant and bankruptcy (see other posts)
when HSBC pulled 4,000 jobs out of Buffalo
No jobs were pulled out. Branch positions were transferred to FNIA (soon to be Key) and over 2000 were transferred next door to an expanded HSBC Atrium building. Additional HSBC office jobs were transferred to Buffalo since then.

The latest employment numbers show the highest employment in the Buffalo Metro since at least 1990, with 21,000 more people working today than in 2010.

And even with One Seneca vacant, the region's office space vacancy rate is only at 13.5%, compared to places like Phoenix (20.9%), Dallas (18.7%), or even Rochester (20.4%). Industrial vacancy space in Buffalo is at an all-time low of only 3.6%, which is actually driving spec construction of industrial buildings in the area.

Well over 1 million square feet of new office and industrial space has been created in Larkinville and other areas of the city since 2010.

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Buffalo City Population's was in 2009 270,000 in 2015 it's well below 250,000
The population in the city limits went from 261,310 (not 270k) to 258,071 (not below 250k), the lowest yearly average percentage drop in decades. You were several thousand wrong. Erie County population INCREASED from 919,064 to 922,578 which was the first sustained increase in decades.

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Property Taxes are now higher then what they were posted in the video and Government workers salaries are now higher then what was in the video
The City of Buffalo tax rates have been steady or decreasing since 2008, and valuation assessments have been frozen since at least 2011. Home valuation (market rate) has been increasing dramatically in the last couple of years in the City, in some areas by over 100%.

Both Buffalo and Erie County spent many years managed by Control Boards which have successfully brought budget issues under control. Since 2010 the number of government workers in the Buffalo area has been reduced from 99,800 to 90,800. At the same time 30,000 private jobs (full time) were filled (net increase of 21,000 total since 2010).

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Sure sounds like a rebirth & renaissance going on
Sure does.
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Old 06-19-2016, 06:35 PM
 
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Erie County claimed 20,000 immigrants from different countries came between 2010 & 2015 and
knowing there is no way to confirm immigrants numbers, they used immigrants numbers ,trying to off set the population loses, US census caught that. what else would except from the corrupt government
When the 2020 census comes out, I bet the farm Erie County population is below 900,000

http://www.buffalonews.com/city-regi...gains-20160428

They call it a reassessment, Just another sneaky corrupt way of raising you taxes


Some Buffalo residents, businesses likely to face tax hikes in first property reassessment since 2010 - City & Region - The Buffalo News


Just having both a City Control board & County Control board to oversee daily government operations
says it all
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Old 06-19-2016, 07:02 PM
 
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Tan, you failed not only in your attempt to disclaim Buffalo's current rising trend but you also apparently think locals can't see thru your bs.

Best to fold your tail in and quit while you're behind.
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Old 06-19-2016, 07:22 PM
 
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Quit what, I haven't even started yet, wait to get some free time to post some real good stats and some
updated videos

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Old 06-21-2016, 11:24 AM
 
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Here's some more of what Buffalo NY Calls Rebirth, & a Renaissance
This is what 99% of Buffalo NY looks like, Go to Google Maps, zoom in on Google Earth & street view and
see it for yourself 100's & 100's blocks & block after block looks like this


These video's are from last summer,



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxhRnfknNs4



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2EJYiuvUVE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smK_bVPv_Bw

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Old 06-21-2016, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Flahrida
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This thread reminds me of how I felt about Buffalo for many years.
Someone can find endless negative things to say and denigrate all the positives that are going on.
My taxes have not gone up in some time.
TanLegs if you don't like it here, then move. Why do feel you have to come on here and spew all kinds of negativity.
I have lived here far longer than you and the area is on the upswing.
A few years ago I would be on here agreeing with you and trashing the city but it really has changed for the better.
You can post all the videos you want and cite endless statistics but it doesn't change anything.
Houses on my street are selling in weeks instead of months for top prices.
Buffalo is on the rise and after visiting many other cities I feel it has a lot to offer.
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