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Old 02-10-2017, 02:54 PM
 
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You are never going to have an apples to apples comparison for any number of factors but to compare a 6 county region and all that's in it to one city is ridicules. Rochester has lost population and Monroe county contains over a dozen towns/villages who can say why they have experienced growth if any. Save the annexation argument, the city has plenty of real estate to develop without trying to annex other residents who don't want to live within its boundaries.
Re read the actual post again. I didn't compare the Rochester metro to the city of Buffalo. I said that Rochester is more white collar(which it is) and as a metro, it hasn't lost population in an official census(which it hasn't). So, what is the issue again? It was to note differences between the 2 cities/areas. Monroe County info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monroe_County,_New_York

Municipalities in the county: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monroe...rk#Communities

Also, ask the many cities in the South and other regions why they have annexed quite a bit in recent decades/years.

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Old 02-10-2017, 03:59 PM
 
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Reread my post and all I was commenting on was "and as a metro, it has never lost population in an official census.
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Old 02-10-2017, 04:22 PM
 
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. Rochester has lost population and Monroe county contains over a dozen towns/villages who can say why they have experienced growth if any.
Get the heck out of here. Every single suburb within 20 miles of the city except 1 has grown over the last 20 years and the growth far exceeds the population loss of the city. you can ignore the 6 county region if you want. Just focus on the immediate suburbs if it bothers you so much.
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Old 02-10-2017, 04:33 PM
 
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Re read the actual post again. I didn't compare the Rochester metro to the city of Buffalo. I said that Rochester is more white collar(which it is) and as a metro, it hasn't lost population in an official census(which it hasn't). So, what is the issue again? It was to note differences between the 2 cities/areas. Monroe County info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monroe_County,_New_York

Municipalities in the county: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monroe...rk#Communities

Also, ask the many cities in the South and other regions why they have annexed quite a bit in recent decades/years.
Just look at Richmond. In 1970 it annexed 27 sq miles which is more than half the 35 sq miles of Rochester. And even after annexing 47,000 citizens, its population is still down from its peak.
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Old 02-10-2017, 04:47 PM
 
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Just look at Richmond. In 1970 it annexed 27 sq miles which is more than half the 35 sq miles of Rochester. And even after annexing 47,000 citizens, its population is still down from its peak.
You are quite right, that ploy was done to recapture predominantly "white" suburbs with a strong tax base but in doing that trick they were prohibited from any further annexations. Ultimately those who were caught in this ploy moved out eliminating the advantage they though they would have.

Since that time the surrounding counties have incorporated themselves as county governments and for the most part have a more robust economy and growth then the city itself. Richmond in many ways is like Albany, if it wasn't the state capital it would have faded away. Many of her problems are similar to what you see in Rochester with the lack of a sizable middle class attending the schools which leaves most residents as very poor/very rich or just empty nesters who don't need to worry about the schools.
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Old 02-10-2017, 05:21 PM
 
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Reread my post and all I was commenting on was "and as a metro, it has never lost population in an official census.
Really? It is clear as to what I was referring to and one of the differences is that unlike the Buffalo metro, the Rochester metro hasn't had population loss in an official(like every 10 years) census. It was just a difference between the areas, just like saying one(Rochester) is more white collar. No biggie though.

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Old 02-10-2017, 05:34 PM
 
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Just look at Richmond. In 1970 it annexed 27 sq miles which is more than half the 35 sq miles of Rochester. And even after annexing 47,000 citizens, its population is still down from its peak.
Rochester could annex Irondequoit(15.2 sq mi) and Brighton(15.5 sq mi) and would still be about 2-3 square miles smaller than Richmond city limits, with both currently having roughly the same population. If both of those towns were added, Rochester would have close to 300,000 people.
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