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Old 09-28-2017, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Crossville, Tn.
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For every 100 acts of terror: 1 homegrown
99 Islamic Fundamentalist
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Old 09-28-2017, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Crossville, Tn.
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For every 100 acts of terror.....1 homegrown.....99 Islamic fundamentalist. Which is the cause for more concern?
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Old 09-28-2017, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Buffalo, NY
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For every 100 acts of terror.....1 homegrown.....99 Islamic fundamentalist. Which is the cause for more concern?
WRONG.
A look at the data on domestic terrorism and who

'Since 9/11— from Sept. 12, 2001, to Dec. 31, 2016 — there have been 85 attacks in the country by violent extremists resulting in 225 deaths. GAO reported citing data from the U.S. Extremist Crime Database.

Of those 225 deaths:

• 106 individuals were killed by far-right violent extremists in 62 separate incidents;

• 119 individuals were killed by radical Islamist violent extremists in 23 separate incidents;"

Note that 49 of the 119 was from one incident, which many consider a homophobic attack moreso than Islamic terrorism. The shooter was an American born in the US.

"The terrorist threat in the United States is almost entirely homegrown, as no foreign terrorist organization has successfully directed and orchestrated an attack in the United States since 9/11," said Albert Ford, a program associate with the International Security and Fellows programs at New America."
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Old 09-28-2017, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY/NJ
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WRONG.
A look at the data on domestic terrorism and who

From Sept. 11, 2001, to Dec. 31, 2016 — there have been 85 attacks in the country by violent extremists resulting in 225 deaths. GAO reported citing data from the U.S. Extremist Crime Database.

Of those 225 deaths:

• 106 individuals were killed by far-right violent extremists in 62 separate incidents;

• 119 + 2,996 individuals were killed by radical Islamist violent extremists in 24 separate incidents;"

Note that 49 of the 119 was from one incident, which many consider a homophobic attack moreso than Islamic terrorism. The shooter was an American born in the US.

"The terrorist threat in the United States is almost entirely homegrown, as no foreign terrorist organization has successfully directed and orchestrated an attack in the United States since 9/11," said Albert Ford, a program associate with the International Security and Fellows programs at New America."
2,996 killed on 9/11. Why is this never calculated into the # killed by radical Islamic terrorism? I just corrected the above numbers for you.

People say "Never Forget" but look how fast we forget.
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Old 09-28-2017, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Crossville, Tn.
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Talking heads and so called experts manipulate stats in our PC society in order to present a false picture. People who are not afraid to "call a spade a spade" see the truth clearly. To equate "far right violent extremists" to the war on Western Civilization by Islamic fundamentalists is just plain foolish.

I believe the data on (left-wing) Politifact as much as I believe the political class. "The terrorist threat in the United States is almost entirely homegrown"

Are you kidding me?
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Old 09-28-2017, 06:19 PM
 
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For every 100 acts of terror.....1 homegrown.....99 Islamic fundamentalist. Which is the cause for more concern?
As mentioned, the first sentence is actually incorrect: Worst terrorist strikes in the United States

I dare say that some may say that some incidents are missing.

Anyway, as mentioned earlier in the thread, there isn't a "refugee crisis" in Buffalo.
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Old 09-28-2017, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Florida Baby!
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Lest we forget....

Most of us are products of "refugees" ... it's amazing how quickly that's forgotten....
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Old 09-29-2017, 06:10 AM
 
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Buffalo is So Dangerous now that even 470 Police officers got hurt
In Buffalo alone, 470 officers injured on the job in four years - The Buffalo News
There is nothing in the article to indicate that these injuries have to do with the "refugee crisis" that you see. In fact, there is a reference that this is a problem that has been growing for thirty years...long before the recent flap about refugees.
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Old 09-29-2017, 06:32 AM
 
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Buffalo has so many Refugee's coming that even their [B
turning[/b] all of the Chruchs into Mosque's
St Geralds was one of Buffalo's largest church's

www.buffalonews.com/2017/02/0...become-mosque/
"...turning all of the Churches into Mosques" as you wrote above is patently untrue in Buffalo and anywhere else in the U.S. You are attempting to make a mendacious connection here to fit the anti-refugee slant of your thread.

This church has been up for sale for eight years! It is up for sale because of the increasing loss of active members of the R.C. church across the United States. Though in areas with high Hispanic immigration this trend is blunted.

The "fault," if indeed there is any fault in this particular situation is simply that it is a local reflection of a nationwide demographic trend in the R.C. church. Roman Catholic schools and churches have been closing steadily for many years in urban areas across America.

You find exactly the same situations occurring across Western Europe too. R.C. churches that have been empty for years are being converted into auditoriums for concerts of classical music, public meeting halls, as churches for East European immigrants, etc.

Given that your ID is an Irish name, you may know that Irish Catholics are abandoning the R.C. religion wholesale. You are seeing a very local aspect of an international trend.
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Old 09-29-2017, 01:23 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Things need to be going a lot better in Buffalo for there to even be masses of people trying to get to Buffalo specifically so much that there's a refugee crisis and that scenario is probably better than this current one, tbqh.
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