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Sure gas was cheaper but the morons down there drinking beer in a paper bag while driving their cars was nuts. The hillbillies still living the civil war was another thing.
To a point your right, but I largely disagree with your statement.
My houses property taxes are over 5000$ annually. That's insane. A comparable house in a comparable neighborhood in tennesse or North Carolina and your looking at like $1000.
Tennessee Gas no state income tax, there's another 2-3k I keep.
Gas is cheaper. Utilities are cheaper. No excessive vehicle taxes DMV fees and vehicle registrations. Many states don't even require inspections. Most states sales tax is cheaper.
Its way cheaper to live most other places. Sure some things may be more expensive but on the whole NY screws you every chance they get.
That may be a higher home price, given the demand and the median home prices in different areas. For instance, I was corrected when I assumed that Nashville was "affordable" in a thread in another forum here on C-D. This can give people an idea: https://www.nar.realtor/topics/metro...-affordability It is almost $100,000 more in Nashville versus Buffalo in terms of median home price according to that information and it is in regards to the metropolitan area, not the city. Even Chattanooga and Knoxville are $33-34k more in that regard. There may be a higher prevalence of HOA's in housing developments as well.
So, bmd isn't too far off, as you just hit in different ways and I think people have to realize that how things work in one state isn't the same for another. So, you can't view another state/area based upon how things are done in NY. That's all....
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I moved from Buffalo to Nashville about 5 years ago and there is no comparison - as someone who works in accounting/finance I come out way ahead.
Nashville salaries are much higher than Buffalo, and there's much more opportunity for careers and advancement. When I transferred to Nashville I got ~20% increase in pay as a salary adjustment. I've been able to advance professionally and get promoted. Unfortunately a lot of the accounting/finance jobs in Buffalo seem to be back office operations. They're fine if you want to remain stagnate at around 60K or so, but there doesn't seem to be much room to advance.
There's no state income tax so I come out ahead on that as well. Gas is under $2/gallon. Property taxes on my house are $1,500. A similar house in a suburb of Buffalo would run $5,000. As far as taxes on vehicles, my registration in Davidson County is ~$80/year. There are no vehicle inspections, only a smog test which is $6.
Housing is definitely more money in Nashville, but I'm not sure median home price is an accurate comparison. There's so much new construction in Nashville that it's really not comparable to Buffalo. And even the older homes in Nashville have at least been updated. I've tried to do a comparison of what I'd be looking for in my next house (newer construction ~3,000 sqft, around the 400-450K range) between Nashville and Buffalo and there's not much that fits the bill in Buffalo. What is available in the size isn't much cheaper, is usually a bit older, and has outrageous property taxes - ~12K in Orchard Park vs. 3K in Nashville. Something needs to be done about the housing stock and the property taxes if Buffalo ever wants to be able to attract outside talent (which it needs with a declining population).
All that being said, I still consider returning to Buffalo from time to time for one reason only: Family. Of course I'd probably be miserable again living under the oppressive state government.
I moved from Buffalo to Nashville about 5 years ago and there is no comparison - as someone who works in accounting/finance I come out way ahead.
Nashville salaries are much higher than Buffalo, and there's much more opportunity for careers and advancement. When I transferred to Nashville I got ~20% increase in pay as a salary adjustment. I've been able to advance professionally and get promoted. Unfortunately a lot of the accounting/finance jobs in Buffalo seem to be back office operations. They're fine if you want to remain stagnate at around 60K or so, but there doesn't seem to be much room to advance.
There's no state income tax so I come out ahead on that as well. Gas is under $2/gallon. Property taxes on my house are $1,500. A similar house in a suburb of Buffalo would run $5,000. As far as taxes on vehicles, my registration in Davidson County is ~$80/year. There are no vehicle inspections, only a smog test which is $6.
Housing is definitely more money in Nashville, but I'm not sure median home price is an accurate comparison. There's so much new construction in Nashville that it's really not comparable to Buffalo. And even the older homes in Nashville have at least been updated. I've tried to do a comparison of what I'd be looking for in my next house (newer construction ~3,000 sqft, around the 400-450K range) between Nashville and Buffalo and there's not much that fits the bill in Buffalo. What is available in the size isn't much cheaper, is usually a bit older, and has outrageous property taxes - ~12K in Orchard Park vs. 3K in Nashville. Something needs to be done about the housing stock and the property taxes if Buffalo ever wants to be able to attract outside talent (which it needs with a declining population).
All that being said, I still consider returning to Buffalo from time to time for one reason only: Family. Of course I'd probably be miserable again living under the oppressive state government.
Thank you for echoing my previous point with another real world example.
I have many family members that are enjoying greener pastures of more free states than NY. I'm still here because of family reasons myself. Its the ONLY reason keeping me here.
I moved from Buffalo to Nashville about 5 years ago and there is no comparison - as someone who works in accounting/finance I come out way ahead.
Nashville salaries are much higher than Buffalo, and there's much more opportunity for careers and advancement. When I transferred to Nashville I got ~20% increase in pay as a salary adjustment. I've been able to advance professionally and get promoted. Unfortunately a lot of the accounting/finance jobs in Buffalo seem to be back office operations. They're fine if you want to remain stagnate at around 60K or so, but there doesn't seem to be much room to advance.
There's no state income tax so I come out ahead on that as well. Gas is under $2/gallon. Property taxes on my house are $1,500. A similar house in a suburb of Buffalo would run $5,000. As far as taxes on vehicles, my registration in Davidson County is ~$80/year. There are no vehicle inspections, only a smog test which is $6.
Housing is definitely more money in Nashville, but I'm not sure median home price is an accurate comparison. There's so much new construction in Nashville that it's really not comparable to Buffalo. And even the older homes in Nashville have at least been updated. I've tried to do a comparison of what I'd be looking for in my next house (newer construction ~3,000 sqft, around the 400-450K range) between Nashville and Buffalo and there's not much that fits the bill in Buffalo. What is available in the size isn't much cheaper, is usually a bit older, and has outrageous property taxes - ~12K in Orchard Park vs. 3K in Nashville. Something needs to be done about the housing stock and the property taxes if Buffalo ever wants to be able to attract outside talent (which it needs with a declining population).
All that being said, I still consider returning to Buffalo from time to time for one reason only: Family. Of course I'd probably be miserable again living under the oppressive state government.
Median home price may be more accurate than average, because it just means that half of the homes cost more than that price and half are lower. Keep in mind that housing makes up the biggest percentage of cost of living at about 30%.
Yes, the median age for housing is newer in the Nashville area in comparison to the Buffalo area(1985 vs. 1955 in terms of median built year). That is due to Buffalo being developed at an earlier time in comparison.
For home owners with a mortgage, in terms of monthly home costs it is $1263 for Buffalo and $1366 for Nashville(2010-2014 census info). It of course will depend on personal situation, the communities in those areas you are comparing, etc. though. This may play a part as well: Red-hot WNY housing market is a nightmare for buyers - The Buffalo News
If anything good came out of these releases, net domestic migration did not really increase by much from 2015. International migration was strongest ever. What really killed us was natural increase. Other than Pittsburgh and cities in Florida, Buffalo was one of the few places the birth rate equalled or was under the death rate. Buffalo only had 74 more births than deaths. Poor Pittsburgh had hundreds more deaths than births. If Buffalo could just get the birth rate up, the population decline would drastically decrease.
If anything good came out of these releases, net domestic migration did not really increase by much from 2015. International migration was strongest ever. What really killed us was natural increase. Other than Pittsburgh and cities in Florida, Buffalo was one of the few places the birth rate equalled or was under the death rate. Buffalo only had 74 more births than deaths. Poor Pittsburgh had hundreds more deaths than births. If Buffalo could just get the birth rate up, the population decline would drastically decrease.
Imagine how bad the ratio would be if we weren't bringing Democrat votes error I mean refugees in! Then we would really be a net loss.
IMO I've said it many times the BEST thing that could ever happen for upstate would be upstate and downstate to split.
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