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Well, the Buffalo MSA faltered in 2016, according to the lastest estimates. Erie county had a population of 921,046, down 1,911 from 2015. The year before, Erie County lost 745. Niagara county has 211,758 for a loss of 764. The year before saw a loss of 962. My guess would be Buffalo resumed a faster decline than the first part of the 2010s. Net domestic migration was about total -5900, which is a little more than last year. The natural increase was only 74 yikes! International migration was at 3600, the highest in a long time.
What is interesting about 2016 numbers (as was also true in 2015) is that each yearly estimate since 2010 has been recalculated, and although the last 2 years have shown a drop since "peak" population estimate year (2014) each yearly revision has shown a higher peak than the year before.
So, the 2016 estimates show that population has been underestimated in previous years.
Definitely not seeing the pre-2010 trends of population loss, but neither seeing any significant increase either.
What is interesting about 2016 numbers (as was also true in 2015) is that each yearly estimate since 2010 has been recalculated, and although the last 2 years have shown a drop since "peak" population estimate year (2014) each yearly revision has shown a higher peak than the year before.
People can go back and forth, and say oh its cheaper to live in Nashville, or North Carolina or whatever. They say oh the price of gas is cheaper in X than in Y.
That's fine and dandy. Money doesn't buy happiness.
For us, we moved south due to crippling student debt, and lack of jobs that paid us decent money.
That in combination with that the north east climate did not suit us, and we found it too depressing during the long drawn out winters.
Moved to a city where our city offers us nice services, parks, lakes, recreation, and a stable job market.
We love to walk across the street to new tennis courts, new sports facilities, hike and bike trail, and we can use them year round.
The suburb I lived in WNY offered nothing beyond basic services (water, streets, etc).
So the fact that a city costs more or costs less, matters very little. It is quality of life, the rest will fill out for you.
If you are an avid ski fan, or hockey skater, then maybe WNY is for you. It is finding the balancing act of career, money, and life's pleasures.
I don't buy that all the people moving from WNY are elderly going to Florida. My facebook is filled with hundreds of people I grew up with in NY. I would say maybe 20-30 percent of them have moved to other states. I am in my mind 30's.
People can go back and forth, and say oh its cheaper to live in Nashville, or North Carolina or whatever. They say oh the price of gas is cheaper in X than in Y.
That's fine and dandy. Money doesn't buy happiness.
For us, we moved south due to crippling student debt, and lack of jobs that paid us decent money.
That in combination with that the north east climate did not suit us, and we found it too depressing during the long drawn out winters.
Moved to a city where our city offers us nice services, parks, lakes, recreation, and a stable job market.
We love to walk across the street to new tennis courts, new sports facilities, hike and bike trail, and we can use them year round.
The suburb I lived in WNY offered nothing beyond basic services (water, streets, etc).
So the fact that a city costs more or costs less, matters very little. It is quality of life, the rest will fill out for you.
If you are an avid ski fan, or hockey skater, then maybe WNY is for you. It is finding the balancing act of career, money, and life's pleasures.
I don't buy that all the people moving from WNY are elderly going to Florida. My facebook is filled with hundreds of people I grew up with in NY. I would say maybe 20-30 percent of them have moved to other states. I am in my mind 30's.
I don't think anyone said that all the people moving to Florida are elderly. I think what was said is that retirees make up a good portion of people moving to select Southern states.
I actually agree that people should just move to where they want to move to or live for THEMSELVES, regardless of the aspects. However, I don't think it is irrelevant to present information based upon collective experiences in an area either way.
People can go back and forth, and say oh its cheaper to live in Nashville, or North Carolina or whatever. They say oh the price of gas is cheaper in X than in Y.
That's fine and dandy. Money doesn't buy happiness.
For us, we moved south due to crippling student debt, and lack of jobs that paid us decent money.
That in combination with that the north east climate did not suit us, and we found it too depressing during the long drawn out winters.
Moved to a city where our city offers us nice services, parks, lakes, recreation, and a stable job market.
We love to walk across the street to new tennis courts, new sports facilities, hike and bike trail, and we can use them year round.
The suburb I lived in WNY offered nothing beyond basic services (water, streets, etc).
So the fact that a city costs more or costs less, matters very little. It is quality of life, the rest will fill out for you.
If you are an avid ski fan, or hockey skater, then maybe WNY is for you. It is finding the balancing act of career, money, and life's pleasures.
I don't buy that all the people moving from WNY are elderly going to Florida. My facebook is filled with hundreds of people I grew up with in NY. I would say maybe 20-30 percent of them have moved to other states. I am in my mind 30's.
Good post. I think most people would agree with this. I'd rather live in a small condo in a city I loved, than in a McMansion in a city I hated.
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