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Old 05-21-2018, 09:08 PM
 
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Holy crap, no wonder school taxes are so high here. Spend a lot of money so the grads can leave when there are no jobs.
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Old 05-23-2018, 09:29 AM
 
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There are no jobs because of the high taxes everyone pays to support this. Teachers union is very powerful and I can't remember anyone campaigning for education reform.
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Old 05-24-2018, 04:24 AM
 
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Before you start spouting numbers, be sure to disaggregate the allotment for special education from general education. The cost per special education student is quite high. Sometimes north of $30K. The cost for general education is much lower, about $8K to $10K. If a district has a large and poor population, the special education classification rate tends to be higher and most of that money comes from the state. That may be why state taxes are high. Property taxes aren't usually high because of schools. In Kenmore, for example, school taxes are on the order of $3K to 4K/year/household. Is that too much? Consider that the cost of quality private school per child is usually far north of that figure. If a family has two children and lives in Kenmore for 30 years, they pay $90K to $120K for their children's education. Let's say about $50K per child so $4K/year per child. I'd say that public education, considering sports, transportation, lunches, clubs, activities, etc., and basically permitting a second income are probably worth the investment.
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Old 05-24-2018, 06:36 AM
 
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Then they all leave cause there are no jobs
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Old 05-24-2018, 06:38 AM
 
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I paid a quarter in taxes in Charlotte as opposed here.
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Old 05-24-2018, 07:26 PM
 
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My brother left NC because the schools were awful.
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Old 05-24-2018, 07:40 PM
 
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Spending a fortune does not equate with a quality education. Look where NYS falls in this study:

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta...ings/education
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Old 05-24-2018, 08:02 PM
 
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^ That is likely due to having the biggest city in the country constituting about 40% of the state’s population and in turn, skewing the the ranking.

There is also the immigrant/refugee/assimilation aspect that the state has to deal with in regards to its students versus other states where it isn’t as big of a factor.

Standards is another aspect as well.

Also, criteria is the key with these lists. Here is another recent ranking list: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...ls/1079181001/ What is interesting with this list is that it shows a different figure for public spending than the heading.
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Old 05-25-2018, 07:17 AM
 
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Here are some more articles by NYS publications which may be more accurate than USA Today:

https://www.empirecenter.org/publica...hool-spending/

https://nypost.com/2017/06/14/ny-spe...ther-us-state/

Education Spending Per Student by State

These use USA Census figures

Whether its 1st or 3rd NYS spends too much given the returns

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Old 05-25-2018, 07:43 AM
 
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CK, According to the USA Today article you quote Vermont spends the most in the country per student. Vermont State Website: School District Spending Per Pupil - FY2017 | Agency of Education

USA Today article: $20,795 per pupil (the highest)
Vermont State figure: $14,651

Can you explain the discrepancy?
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